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Re: [babel] Robert Wilton's Abstain on draft-ietf-babel-v4viav6-07: (with COMMENT)

Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> Thu, 24 February 2022 17:25 UTC

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From: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>
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Subject: Re: [babel] Robert Wilton's Abstain on draft-ietf-babel-v4viav6-07: (with COMMENT)
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> I'm abstaining because whilst I think that the solution here is clever, I'm
> less convinced that it is a good idea, particularly as an IETF standards track
> document.

The document has been made Experimental, as you suggest.

> It would be interesting to know whether there are any real or planned
> deployments of this draft.

We are planning to release a version of babeld with this extension enabled
by default this spring, assuming our testing goes well.  At that point,
all routers that use babeld in the default configuration will deploy this
extension as soon as they get an update.

-- Juliusz

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