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Re: [Banana] charter comments and discussion

Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> Sat, 01 April 2017 14:38 UTC

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From: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>
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Subject: Re: [Banana] charter comments and discussion
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>> - Makes sure that packets received by src (resp. dst) are identical to
>>   packets originated by the dst (resp. src).
>> - Only aggregates traffic "between consenting adults", i.e., when both src
>>   and dst endpoints are aware of what is going on.

> - you should not be stuck with banana when you are able to use
>   a transport protocol that can do better (e.g. MPTCP or MP capable Quick
>   some time in the future)

> - When using banana, you should be able to get rid of the reordering and
>   the delay it causes (e.g. if your transport protocol can really
>   tolerate reordering - not in a TCP way)

I think the two of you are speaking of different things.  Pierre is
speaking about his concern that Banana will introduce a new kind of IPv6
middlebox, so he requests that a Banana box behave as a dumb
en/decapsulator.  Pilipp is speaking about the ability to bypass Banana.

Both requirements have the same goal (avoiding contributing to so-called
"ossification"), but they are different requirements.  For the record,
I support both.

-- Juliusz

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