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Re: [BEHAVE] [Fwd: Last Call: draft-azinger-additional-private-ipv4-space-issues (Additional Private IPv4 Space) to INFORMATIONAL RFC]

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 04 August 2010 02:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] [Fwd: Last Call: draft-azinger-additional-private-ipv4-space-issues (Additional Private IPv4 Space) to INFORMATIONAL RFC]
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Victor,

> IPv6, although the best solution is just not feasible as
> a "complete" solution in the very near future in many networks (now till
> past IPv4 run out) since many vendor systems (CPE space, provider space etc)
> and upstream applications are just not IPv6 ready now (if anyone does not
> like this, please contact your local vendor). 

Sure. See draft-ietf-v6ops-isp-scenarios. But these are *product* issues,
and giving those vendors yet more time to fail to meet a requirement
that has been clear since 1996 is surely not the right message.

IMHO, the IETF's job (as in draft-azinger-) is to document the problems
that extra private space would cause.

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

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