Re: [BEHAVE] Two questions about draft-zhou-behave-syslog-nat-logging-00

"Zhouqian (Cathy)" <cathy.zhou@huawei.com> Wed, 11 July 2012 02:04 UTC

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From: "Zhouqian (Cathy)" <cathy.zhou@huawei.com>
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Hi Juergen,


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Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] Two questions about draft-zhou-behave-syslog-nat-logging-00

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:52:59PM +0800, meng.wei2@zte.com.cn wrote:
> Hi  Chen:
> 
>    I have read the draft about NAT syslog logging. Here are two questions.
> 
>    1) In section 1.1 you summarize 4 solution, I think the content of 
> draft is about the first solution, am I right?
> 
>    2) The draft wants to  present us a kind of message format or even a 
> kind of log format about NAT syslog . Is it the key of the text?
> 

As far as I can tell, the I-D redefines RFC 5424 message formats
(e.g. the TIMESTAMP in section 4.1.1.3), which is not appropriate. It
also adds new supposedly machine readable content in an ad-hoc way
(section 4.1.2) rather than defining proper structured data
elements. I suggest to remove all text discussing RFC 5424 elements
that do not (and must not) change and instead to focus on properly
defining the new structured data elements considered useful for NATs.
Cathy: Thanks for your comments, and you are right. We will update it.

I can't comment on the RADIUS specific text but it might be useful to
factor RADIUS specific things out into a separate document.
Cathy: We can keep this section and get specific extensions out of the document.

The discussion of performance and reliability requirements likely does
not belong into this document if it aims are being a technical
protocol specification. Some of these requirements depend on
deployment requirements or even legal frameworks.
Cathy: I am also not sure if it is appropriate to put the performance requirements here. 
My intention is to provide some guides for deployment.

Cathy 
 
/js

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