Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was Lack of need for 66nat)
Dave Thaler <dthaler@windows.microsoft.com> Thu, 27 November 2008 19:00 UTC
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From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@windows.microsoft.com>
To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>, Eric Klein <ericlklein.ipv6@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:00:06 -0800
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Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was Lack of need for 66nat)
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I agree with Keith here. In my earlier comments on the NAT66 draft, I mentioned that in my opinion, it MUST NOT be used with scoped addresses (link-locals, site-locals). Communication to such addresses should never be routed outside their scope (even if translated). And use with ULAs is questionable (might affect some applications if they assume[*] that ULAs aren't used outside their site). -Dave [*] I use assume in the same sense as other assumptions/myths in draft-iab-ip-model-evolution. > -----Original Message----- > From: behave-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:behave-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Keith Moore > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:21 AM > To: Eric Klein > Cc: Behave Mailing List > Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was Lack of need > for 66nat) > > Eric Klein wrote: > > If we are seriously discussing defining some flavor of NAT (and it > > appears that more than half of the people writing are in favor of it) > > then we need to resurect the address space that was allocated for > site > > locals fec0:: (and currently is likely not used do to early > > implementations) and use it as the new "1918" type pool for v6. > > uh, no. > > the one thing that makes NAT even worth considering in IPv6 is not > having conflicting use of the same address space, like we have with RFC > 1918 addresses in IPv4. > > > Keith > _______________________________________________ > Behave mailing list > Behave@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/behave _______________________________________________ Behave mailing list Behave@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/behave
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Eric Klein
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Keith Moore
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Dave Thaler
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Keith Moore
- [BEHAVE] nat66 and ULAs and PI Michael Richardson
- Re: [BEHAVE] nat66 and ULAs and PI Keith Moore
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [BEHAVE] nat66 and ULAs and PI Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Eric Klein
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… trejrco
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Keith Moore
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Keith Moore
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Christian Huitema
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Dave Thaler
- Re: [BEHAVE] nat66 and ULAs and PI Michael Richardson
- Re: [BEHAVE] nat66 and ULAs and PI Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Eric Klein
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Eric Klein
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Eric Klein
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Keith Moore
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - fc01::/48 a dummy ULA for th… Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Pekka Savola
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - fc01::/48 a dummy ULA for th… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - fc01::/48 a dummy ULA for th… Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - fc01::/48 a dummy ULA for th… Keith Moore
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - fc01::/48 a dummy ULA for th… Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - fc01::/48 a dummy ULA for th… Keith Moore
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - fc01::/48 a dummy ULA for th… Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - fc01::/48 a dummy ULA for th… Keith Moore
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - fc01::/48 a dummy ULA for th… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - fc01::/48 a dummy ULA for th… Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Tony Hain
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Pekka Savola
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Eric Klein
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Mark Andrews
- Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was… Brian E Carpenter