Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was Lack of need for 66nat)

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 28 November 2008 00:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was Lack of need for 66nat)
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On 2008-11-28 08:00, Dave Thaler wrote:
> I agree with Keith here.  In my earlier comments on the NAT66 draft,
> I mentioned that in my opinion, it MUST NOT be used with scoped
> addresses (link-locals, site-locals).  Communication to such
> addresses should never be routed outside their scope (even
> if translated).
> 
> And use with ULAs is questionable (might affect some applications
> if they assume[*] that ULAs aren't used outside their site).

I'm afraid that such assumptions are going to be made in any case,
until the day when addresses are consistently handled as data structures
including format, lifetime and scope information.

We explicitly defined ULAs as having global scope; which is a sort of
warning that they may be exported from their origin site.

     Brian

> 
> -Dave
> 
> [*] I use assume in the same sense as other assumptions/myths in
> draft-iab-ip-model-evolution.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: behave-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:behave-bounces@ietf.org] On
>> Behalf Of Keith Moore
>> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:21 AM
>> To: Eric Klein
>> Cc: Behave Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] NAT66 - lets bring back FEC0:: ( was Lack of need
>> for 66nat)
>>
>> Eric Klein wrote:
>>> If we are seriously discussing defining some flavor of NAT (and it
>>> appears that more than half of the people writing are in favor of it)
>>> then we need to resurect the address space that was allocated for
>> site
>>> locals fec0:: (and currently is likely not used do to early
>>> implementations) and use it as the new "1918" type pool for v6.
>> uh, no.
>>
>> the one thing that makes NAT even worth considering in IPv6 is not
>> having conflicting use of the same address space, like we have with RFC
>> 1918 addresses in IPv4.
>>
>>
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