[BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format
Dave Thaler <dthaler@windows.microsoft.com> Thu, 02 July 2009 04:06 UTC
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From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@windows.microsoft.com>
To: Xing Li <xing@cernet.edu.cn>
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Subject: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format
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Section 5.2.5 of draft-xli-behave-v4v6-prefix-00 says: > The selection of the prefix length may affect the EUI-64 format, > since the subnet may not be in the 64 bit boundary. However, there > is no contradiction to [RFC4291], which states that first, an > interface identifier has to be unique on the LAN-or-whatever it is > on. And second, when the interface identifier is a MAC address it > should be in a format related to a MAC Address - except that it is > different. So, especially given privacy addressing, we can't really > assume that the router or neighboring host is going to extract a MAC > address from the interface identifier and directly use it to direct a > datagram to another host; rather, the relationship between a MAC > address and an interface identifier has a level of indirection > managed by Neighbor Discovery. While it's true there's no "contradiction" per se, there is a definite constraint. Specifically RFC 4291 section 2.5.1 states: > For all unicast addresses, except those that start with the binary > value 000, Interface IDs are required to be 64 bits long and to be > constructed in Modified EUI-64 format. The Modified EUI-64 format reserves the universal/local bit for that use. This is then restated in that RFC both in section 2.5.1: > The use of the universal/local bit in the Modified EUI-64 format > identifier is to allow development of future technology that can take > advantage of interface identifiers with universal scope. as well as in Appendix A, which explains that there are a number of approaches, but all of them adhere to the universal/local bit. Similarly, with privacy addresses referred to in the draft quote at top, RFC 3041 section 3.2.1 point 3 forces the randomized interface identifier to adhere to this requirement, so that it's a 63-bit random number, not a 64-bit random number. And with CGAs, RFC 3972 section 4 point 6 similarly forces a generated interface identifier to adhere to this requirement. (As an aside, it also reserves the "g" bit which is actually unnecessary since it's not IEEE EUI-64-derived. RFC 4291 only discusses the "g" bit for addresses derived from IEEE EUI-64's, which is why RFC 3041 and a translation format can still use that bit). Hence it is not legal for an embedded IPv4 address to span this bit unless the prefix starts with binary 000. So either a well-known prefix can be used that starts with binary 000, or else any embedded (or obscured) IPv4 address has to end before the 71st bit (i.e. LIR prefix length <= 38) or start after it (i.e. LIR prefix length >= 71). -Dave
- [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Dave Thaler
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Dave Thaler
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Dave Thaler
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Rémi Després
- [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifiers (w… Christian Huitema
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifiers marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifiers Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Christian Huitema
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Christian Huitema
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Dave Thaler
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Dave Thaler
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Dave Thaler
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifiers Dave Thaler
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifiers Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifiers marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifiers Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifiers marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Bob Hinden
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Christian Huitema
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Christian Huitema
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Mark Andrews
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifier… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Rémi Després
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifiers Dave Thaler
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Xing Li
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifiers Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: [BEHAVE] Perils of structured host identifiers Dave Thaler
- Re: [BEHAVE] Modified EUI-64 format Jari Arkko