Re: [bess] IETF 117 BESS - IPv6 Only PE Design & IPv4 Only PE Design ALL SAFI Supported

Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 28 July 2023 14:39 UTC

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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 07:39:01 -0700
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Subject: Re: [bess] IETF 117 BESS - IPv6 Only PE Design & IPv4 Only PE Design ALL SAFI Supported
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Hi Gyan,

Thanks a lot for acting on this feedback from myself and others in the WG.
This is really helpful and will benefit readers of the document but also
through the IETF process all the reviewers and contributors.

With this merge, I hope you are able to consolidate and simplify these
various design options and illustrate the similarities.

I support this merge.

Thanks,
Ketan


On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 5:32 PM Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear BESS WG,
>
> *From my presentation today discussion on "merging" of drafts I  would
> like to poll the BESS WG on merging of the two drafts labeled #1 & #2 below
> into the WG document labeled #3 below:*
> *Please respond  to this email.*
>
> *Some history:*
> *IPv6 Only PE design / ALL SAFI:*
> draft-ietf-bess-ipv6-only-pe-design-04 (BCP) (Original BCP testing draft
> with Cisco, Juniper, Nokia, Arista, Huawei) *(WG document)*
> IPv6 Only PE design single IPv6 peer - testing SAFI 1,128,129
> draft-mishra-bess-ipv6-only-pe-design-all-safi-04 (Standards Track) (New
> Draft) - Extended Standards Track to support ALL IPv4 SAFI
>
> *IPv4 Only PE design / ALL SAFI:*
> The below drafts were two separate drafts but I have combined into single
> draft since they both were not WG documents
> draft-mishra-bess-ipv4-only-pe-design-02 -(BCP) (POC testing draft with
> Cisco, Juniper, Nokia, Arista, Huawei)
> IPv4 Only PE design single IPv4 peer - testing SAFI 1,128,129
> draft-mishra-bess-ipv4-only-pe-design-all-safi-05 (Standards track) (New
> Draft) - Extended Standards Track to support ALL IPv4 SAFI (Both v4
> drafts have been combined into this Draft early this year)
> (Introduces new IPv4 next hop encoding IANA capability codepoint
> standardization following RFC 8950 IPv4 next hop and not legacy IPv4 mapped
> IPv6 address next hop ::FFFF::1.1.1.1)
> (Today there is a mix of IPv4 next hop and IPv4 mapped IPv6 next hop
> across all vendors and within same vendor platform -afi/safi matrix to be
> added to merged draft)
>
> *Combine these two drafts --> So now we are left with  these 2 new drafts
> that extend to support ALL SAFI*
>
> #1 draft-mishra-bess-ipv6-only-pe-design-all-safi-03 (Standards Track)
> #2 draft-mishra-bess-ipv4-only-pe-design-all-safi-04 (Standard Track)
>
> *Into WG document below:*
>
> *#3 draft-ietf-bess-ipv6-only-pe-design-04 (BCP)*
>
> *And make the new combined draft "Standards Track" as it will have the
> operational process and procedure update for the alternative dual stacking
> method for all SAFI *
> *as well as New IANA capability code point for IPv4 next hop encoding
> similar to RFC 8950. *
>
> *NEW DRAFT NAME: *
>
> * draft-ietf-bess-v4-v6-pe-all-safi (Standards Track)*
>
> *Why combine?*
>
>    - Both IPv4 Only PE Design & IPv6 Only PE design are identical
>    concepts of single IPv4 peer or single IPv6 peer carrying SAFI 1,128.129
>    for both v4 & v6 prefixes being POC tested - can now be done in parallel
>    - Extensibility of both the IPv4 Only PE Design & IPv6 Only PE design
>    extends to the same set of ALL IPv4 / IPv6 SAFI's
>    - Saves both WG time on progressing 3 separate drafts
>    - Single draft that has the entire v4 / v6 design & architecture in
>    one spot versus being broken out into separate drafts added complexity
>
>
> Thank you
>
> <http://www.verizon.com/>
>
> *Gyan Mishra*
>
> *Network Solutions A**rchitect *
>
> *Email gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com <gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com>*
>
>
>
> *M 301 502-1347*
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