[bess] Re: [EXTERNAL] [Errata Rejected] RFC9135 (9000)

"Gunter van de Velde (Nokia)" <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com> Thu, 20 August 2026 08:03 UTC

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From: "Gunter van de Velde (Nokia)" <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>
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Hi Sasha,

I'll check with the secretariat if there are prior experiences on this type of errata (impacting several parts of the text) and will get back to you.

G/


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Gunter,

Lots of thanks for your detailed review of the Erratum and explanation of reasons for rejecting it in spite of acknowledging the problem that has triggered its submission.



I agree that the proposed correction, as written, contradict the last para of Section 9.1.1 of RFC 9135<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9135#section-9.1.1> that says (the relevant text is highlighted):



If the receiving NVE receives an EVPN RT-2 with only label1 and only a single Route Target corresponding to IP-VRF; an EVPN RT-2 with only a single Route Target corresponding to MAC-VRF but with both label1 and label2; or an EVPN RT-2 with a MAC address length of zero, then it MUST use the treat-as-withdraw approach [RFC7606<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7606>] and SHOULD log an error message.

The correction should either make an exception for IPv6 link-local address in the marked or should make an exception for inclusion of Label2 field for these addresses in Section 5.1.



I am not sure that an Erratum that, one way or another, affects multiple text fragments of the RFC, is the best way to handle the problem.



If you think that submitting a modified Erratum addressing the contradiction mentioned above would help, I can do that.



Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,

Sasha



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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Errata Rejected] RFC9135 (9000)



The following errata report has been rejected for RFC9135,
"Integrated Routing and Bridging in Ethernet VPN (EVPN)"

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You may review the report below and at:
https://errata.rfc-editor.org/eid9000/<https://errata.rfc-editor.org/eid9000>

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Status: Rejected
Type: Technical
Reported by: Alexander ("Sasha") Vainshtein <alexander.vainshtein@rbbn.com<mailto:alexander.vainshtein@rbbn.com>>
Date Reported: June 10, 2026, 1:57 p.m.
Rejected by: Gunter Van de Velde (IESG)

Section 5.1 and 5.2 says:

Original Text
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In Section 5.1:
This route MUST be advertised with two Route Targets, one corresponding to the MAC-VRF of the tenant's subnet
and another corresponding to the tenant's IP-VRF.

In Section 5.2:
When a PE (e.g., PE2 in Figure 4 above) receives this EVPN MAC/IP Advertisement route, it performs the following:

The MAC-VRF Route Target and Ethernet Tag, if the latter is non-zero, are used to identify the correct MAC-VRF and bridge table,
and if they are found, the MAC address is imported.
The IP-VRF Route Target is used to identify the correct IP-VRF, and if it is found, the IP address is imported.

Corrected Text
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In Section 5,1:
This route MUST be advertised with two Route Targets, one corresponding to the MAC-VRF of the tenant's subnet and another corresponding to the tenant's IP-VRF.
The Route Targets corresponding to the tenants IP-VRF SHOULD be omitted if the IP address the NLRI of teh route is a link-local IPv6 address.

In Section 5.2:
When a PE (e.g., PE2 in Figure 4 above) receives this EVPN MAC/IP Advertisement route, it performs the following:

The MAC-VRF Route Target and Ethernet Tag, if the latter is non-zero, are used to identify the correct MAC-VRF and bridge table,
and if they are found, the MAC address is imported.
If the IP address in the NLRI of the route is not an IPv6 link-local address, the IP-VRF Route Target is used to identify the correct IP-VRF, and if it is found, the IP address is imported.

Notes
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Claim by submitter
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As per Section 2.5.6 of RFC 4291, "Routers must not forward any packets with Link-Local source or destination addresses to other links".

Therefore, these addresses MUST NOT be in the IP-VRF in ingress PE, and there is no need to attach Route Targets of the IP-VRF in the egress PE because they are used solely for identification of the importing IP-VRF in the ingress PE.

AD Review
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I agree with the underlying observation that an IPv6 link-local address must not become an inter-subnet forwarding route. However, I do not think the proposed correction can be verified as written.

RFC 4291 prohibits forwarding packets with link-local source or destination addresses to another link, but this does not mean that link-local addresses cannot appear as interface- or zone-scoped state within an IP-VRF.

More importantly, the proposed correction conflicts with RFC 9135 itself. Section 4.2 uses the presence of both Label2 and an IP-VRF Route Target to identify symmetric IRB. Section 9.1.1 also says that an RT-2 carrying both Label1 and Label2 but only a MAC-VRF Route Target MUST be treated as withdrawn. Omitting only the IP-VRF Route Target would therefore cause compliant receivers to discard the route.

There may be a valid clarification or protocol update here: a link-local MAC/IP binding could perhaps be advertised only for MAC-VRF and Proxy-ND purposes, without Label2 or IP-VRF import. However, that would require coordinated changes to several sections and discussion in BESS.

I therefore recommend rejecting this erratum as written and taking the underlying IPv6 link-local handling question to the BESS working group.

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RFC9135 (draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding)
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Title : Integrated Routing and Bridging in Ethernet VPN (EVPN)
Publication Date : October 2021
Author(s) : A. Sajassi, S. Salam, S. Thoria, J. Drake, J. Rabadan
Category : Proposed Standard
Source : bess (rtg)
Stream : IETF



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