Re: [bess] AD Review of draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-bidir-ingress-replication-02

"Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" <zzhang@juniper.net> Mon, 28 September 2015 14:51 UTC

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From: "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" <zzhang@juniper.net>
To: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" <aretana@cisco.com>, "draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-bidir-ingress-replication@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-bidir-ingress-replication@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [bess] AD Review of draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-bidir-ingress-replication-02
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Alvaro,
> I-D.ietf-bess-ir and I-D.ietf-bess-mvpn-extranet should be Normative References.
I thought about this further, and would like to keep them both as informational for the following reasons.
The extranet draft is referred to in the draft as following:
   ... The label may be shared
   with other P-tunnels, subject to the anti-ambiguity rules for
   extranet [I-D.ietf-bess-mvpn-extranet<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-bidir-ingress-replication-02#ref-I-D.ietf-bess-mvpn-extranet>].
Both extranet and label sharing are optional, not required for implementing the procedures in this draft.

As for draft-ietf-bess-ir: RFC 6514 specifies the use of IR P-tunnels, though there are some problems with RFC 6514's specification of IR P-tunnels, which are addressed in detail in draft-ietf-bess-ir.



Draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-bidir-ingress-replication explains how to support a VPN customer's use of BIDIR-PIM when the service provider uses IR P-tunnels, but it doesn't really depend on those details specified in draft-ietf-bess-ir. Thus draft-ietf-bess-ir should not be a normative reference for it.



Thanks!

Jeffrey