Re: [bess] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-pref-df-11: (with COMMENT)

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From: "Jorge Rabadan (Nokia)" <jorge.rabadan@nokia.com>
To: Murray Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [bess] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-pref-df-11: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Murray,

Thank you very much for reviewing.
We just published version 12, which we believe addresses your comments.

Thanks!
Jorge

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Section 2 defines "BD" but it's not used anywhere in this document.  Nor are
"NDF", "BDF", "vES", "ISID", or "MAC-VRF".

The sole "SHOULD" in Section 4.1 leaves me with two questions: (1) What happens
if I don't do this?  (2) The sentence itself appears to parse like "You SHOULD
do this, but you don't actually have to" which seems like an abuse of BCP 14.
I think this is better if you just change "SHOULD" to "should", and drop the
BCP 14 references altogether.