Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane

"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Fri, 25 January 2019 23:32 UTC

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From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 18:32:19 -0500
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Subject: Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane
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John,

So, in order to support draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-encapsulation, looking
at draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps, you would use the value 10 from the "BGP
Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute Sub-TLVs" registry, and also from your draft
use the SFP Traversal With MPLS Label Stack TLV and the SPI/SI
Representation sub-TLV with bit 0 set and bit 1 cleared? I just want to
make sure I correctly read the details.

Thanks,
Andy

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 1:15 PM John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net> wrote:

> Wim,
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> The subject draft was designed w/ NSH in mind.  We added an MPLS
> representation of the NSH later, which is the subject of the first draft
> you referenced, below.
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> The way the subject draft is written, the representation of the NSH  and
> the type of transport tunnel can change on a hop-by-hop basis at the
> discretion of the selected next-hop SFF.  This is through the use of the
> encapsulation attribute, which gives us a very open-ended framework in
> which to work.
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> I think the latter two drafts you referenced, below, are actually
> supported already but what needs to be written down is exactly what an SFF
> needs to advertise in the encapsulation attribute in order to support
> them.
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> I would be happy to work on this w/ anyone else who is interested.
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> Yours Irrespectively,
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> John
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> *From:* BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of * Henderickx, Wim
> (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2019 12:00 PM
> *To:* stephane.litkowski@orange.com; bess@ietf.org
> *Cc:* bess-chairs@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for
> draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane
>
>
> I need to get into more details, but the current draft is written with draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-04
> dataplane in mind. I believe that the draft can be useful with other
> dataplanes like: draft-ietf-mpls-sfc-encapsulation and
> draft-guichard-spring-nsh-s
>
> So I would like the see the BGP control plane extensions here to become
> more generic to support multiple data-planes options. I need to go in more
> detail, but from high level this is my feedback here. I don’t want to
> stop/block this work as I believe this is a very useful proposal, but if we
> make it more generic it can serve a bigger purpose.
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> So I would like to see the following:
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>    1. Protocol draft
>    2. Use case drafts for the different data planes.
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> My 2 cents.
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> *From: *BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Stephane Litkowski <
> stephane.litkowski@orange.com>
> *Date: *Monday, 21 January 2019 at 08:06
> *To: *"bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
> *Cc: *"bess-chairs@ietf.org" <bess-chairs@ietf.org>
> *Subject: *[bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for
> draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane
>
>
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> Hello Working Group,
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> This email starts a three weeks Working Group Last Call on
>  draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane [1].
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> This poll runs until *the 4th of February*.
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> We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to
> this Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with
> IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
>
> If you are listed as an Author or a Contributor of this Document please
> respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any
> relevant undisclosed IPR. The Document won't progress without answers from
> all the Authors and Contributors.
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> We have several IPRs already disclosed.
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> If you are not listed as an Author or a Contributor, then please
> explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been
> disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
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> We are also polling for any existing implementation as per [2].
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>     Thank you,
>
>     Stephane & Matthew
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>     [1]
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane/
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dbess-2Dnsh-2Dbgp-2Dcontrol-2Dplane_&d=DwMGaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=CRB2tJiQePk0cT-h5LGhEWH-s_xXXup3HzvBSMRj5VE&m=NmtJTnm15eI5V8pM4BEFevbruNYPMxijWj6csDXLze8&s=TfgMeOz6kzVSiGyw-h1RMGo9QIYi6K9bz8AcyCd3BNI&e=>
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>     [2]
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw
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