[Bier] RFC status change (was: Re: Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-bier-te-arch-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT))

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Wed, 12 January 2022 20:06 UTC

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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: [Bier] RFC status change (was: Re: Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-bier-te-arch-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT))
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On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:19:57AM -0700, Alvaro Retana wrote:
> On August 25, 2021 at 12:08:31 PM, Rob Wilton wrote:
> Rob:
> > When I pulled up these docs, and both in tools and datatracker the document
> > boilerplate has them as experimental. Do you know if this is a generic issue,
> > or specific to these docs for some reason? I would say that having different
> > status in different places is highly confusing.
> Yes, it is confusing.  The problem is that the boilerplate is part of
> the RFC, so it's immutable.

The immutability of the boilerplate seems to just be some policy we, or RFC
Editor made up. I don't see any reason why we can not change that. I also
observe that "Updated by": already breaks boilerplate immutability...