Re: [bmwg] IESG Interaction

["Snyder, Guy" <[e-mail]>]

Forgive me (you and the authors) if this sounded like I was saying the
authors were not doing something. I was just using these two documents
as examples of the many that have expired. I just wanted to understand
the problem and the process that was trying to be solved. I think you
answered my questions. I totally understand your comment about volunteer
time.

 

-- Guy

-- ICSA Labs

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From: Al Morton [mailto:[e-mail]] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:48 AM
To: Snyder, Guy; [e-mail]
Subject: Re: [bmwg] IESG Interaction

 

At 06:27 AM 7/29/2010, Snyder, Guy wrote:



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As part of the discussion for the re-charter, it was presented that
there was an issue getting drafts through the IESG.  Some examples were
the IPsec terminology and methodology. Al indicated that normally this
was because the IESG did not agree with our terminology. 


Well, the audio record rules, but I didn't say much in my
WG status presentation about these drafts, except that
they had expired while we were waiting for the authors to
resolve the IESG comments. (Later, I think Ron may have 
mentioned the IPsec drafts in his motivation to revise
the charter. He cited a general difficulty with the benchmarks
themselves that has caused some problems.)

To see what the IESG really said, which is what matters most,
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-ipsec-term/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bmwg-ipsec-meth/





 So my question is, did the documents stall because authors did not work
with the IESG? 


Officially, we are still waiting to see revised drafts that
address all the IESG comments.




 Forgive me, but I don't understand totally how this process works and
how changes/fixes could have happened that would have satisfied the IESG
so the documents did not expire. 


We simply needed the revisions to be made sooner, but we are a
volunteer organization and the volunteers can only help us 
when they have the time and energy...

Al