[anonsec] mailing list problems

[Nicolas.Williams at sun.com (Nicolas Williams)]

On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 06:16:07AM -0700, Joe Touch wrote:
> > Please make your filters smart enough to allow postings by subscribers
> > or by senders who've posted before or remove the filters altogether.
> 
> While the idea that "if you posted before, all future posts are OK"
> seems useful on the surface, there are two problems:
> 
> 	1) that's not a setting in Mailman (of which I am aware;
> 		if anyone knows otherwise, please let me know off-list)
> 
> 	2) that won't stop the spam (we already get) spoofed with
> 	source addresses of regular posters, as well as other
> 	subscribed addresses

So let's make it the IETF's problem.  They have a tools team.

> > If you don't then I will ask the chair to create a btns at ietf.org list
> > and move the WG discussion to it.  (The chair may refuse to do that, of
> > course.)
> 
> That's your perogative (and the chair's). I provide the service I can,
> with the resources available. I don't have the resources to rewrite
> Mailman every time a transient like this comes up, nor would I expect
> the IETF system to either.
> 
> In general, we receive very little spam, and trip up the system on cases
> like this rarely.

I've been annoyed more than once by these filters.  From what you say
any subject line with "call for" causes this.  Well.  In a consensus
driven organization calls for consensus are common, so your filter is
broken.  Please fix it, or just turn it off.

> If you believe that there is a potential problem, it might be useful to
> start by changing the subject line, since most of our filters weigh the
> subject line heavily.

Absolutely not.  I will not try to guess what possible filters you have,
nor try to remember which ones I've tripped over in the past, when
answering someone else's e-mail.

In this case I was answering an e-mail from the WG chair -- I won't look
askance at the chairs' e-mails' subject lines!

Nico
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