Re: [C310] "6TiSCH" in titles (9030-9033)

Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@amsl.com> Thu, 13 May 2021 23:02 UTC

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To: Mališa Vučinić <malisa.vucinic@inria.fr>, "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [C310] "6TiSCH" in titles (9030-9033)
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Mališa,

We have updated RFC 9031 based on your feedback:

    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9031-lastrfcdiff.html

    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9031.txt
    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9031.pdf
    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9031.html
    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9031.xml

May we mark your approval on the AUTH48 status page?

    https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9031

Best regards,

RFC Editor/jm


On 5/12/21 3:51 PM, Mališa Vučinić wrote:
> Jean, Pascal,
>
> Among the co-authors of RFC-to-be 9031, we discussed yesterday exactly the same topic and we would like to drop the "e" in 9031 as well, wherever possible.
>
> The occurrences of "15.4e" in 9031 are due to:
> (1) Expansion of the 6TiSCH acronym in the abstract (x1)
> (2) Top-level IANA registry references (x3)
> (3) Titles of RFC 7554 and RFC 8180 that are normative references (x2)
>
>  From Jean's mail, my understanding is that we can get rid of (1) and (2).
>
> If this could be incorporated in 9031 before we proceed with the next stage, that would be absolutely great!
>
> Mališa
>
> On 12/05/2021 22:29, "c310 on behalf of Pascal Thubert (pthubert) via c310" <c310-bounces@rfc-editor.org on behalf of c310@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>
>      Hello Jean
>      
>      Great catch! Please remove the e.
>      
>      The change reflects the historical fact that the 802.15.4e amendment was retrofitted in the ieee 802.15.4 standard in 2015.
>      
>      I do not see that we need an approval to recognize this.
>      
>      Take care,
>      
>      Pascal
>      
>      > Le 12 mai 2021 à 22:12, Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@amsl.com> a écrit :
>      >
>      > Pascal,
>      >
>      > While assessing the document updates to change the 6TiSCH acronym expansion to "IPv6 over the Time-Slotted Channel Hopping Mode of IEEE 802.15.4" (dropping the "e" from "15.4e"), we noticed that the name of the top-level 6TiSCH IANA registry contains "e":
>      >
>      >    IPv6 Over the TSCH Mode of IEEE 802.15.4e (6TiSCH)
>      >    https://www.iana.org/assignments/_6tisch/_6tisch.xhtml
>      >
>      > If we change the acronym expansion in the C310 documents, should this registry name also be updated?  If so, who needs to approve the change?
>      >
>      > Best regards,
>      >
>      > RFC Editor/jm
>      >
>      >> On 5/11/21 12:56 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:
>      >> Happy to remove the ´e ´ in 15.4e
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Regards,
>      >>
>      >> Pascal
>      >>
>      >>>> Le 11 mai 2021 à 19:55, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> a écrit :
>      >>>
>      >>> Dear all,
>      >>>
>      >>> Honestly I’d rather keep everything as is.
>      >>> If we change something I’d suggest adding (6TiSCH) at the end of the title of 9030.
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> Regards,
>      >>>
>      >>> Pascal
>      >>>
>      >>>> Le 11 mai 2021 à 19:28, Alice Russo <arusso@amsl.com> a écrit :
>      >>>>
>      >>>> Authors of RFCs-to-be 9030, 9031, 9032, and 9033,
>      >>>>
>      >>>> We'd like to more closely align the titles of these documents; may "6TiSCH" be expanded?  Please reply if you have a preference. Essentially:
>      >>>>
>      >>>> May the titles be updated as shown in Option A (expanding "6TiSCH")? If so, is it accurate to change "802.15.4" to "802.15.4e" in the cases where it did not appear (9030 and 9032)?
>      >>>>
>      >>>> -- Original titles (various handling):
>      >>>> 9030 - An Architecture for IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE 802.15.4
>      >>>> 9031 - Constrained Join Protocol (CoJP) for 6TiSCH
>      >>>> 9032 - IEEE 802.15.4 Information Element encapsulation of 6TiSCH Join and Enrollment Information
>      >>>> 9033 - 6TiSCH Minimal Scheduling Function (MSF)
>      >>>>
>      >>>> -- Option A (expanding "6TiSCH"):
>      >>>> 9030 - An Architecture for IPv6 over the Time-Slotted Channel Hopping Mode of IEEE 802.15.4e (6TiSCH)
>      >>>> 9031 - The Constrained Join Protocol (CoJP) for IPv6 over the Time-Slotted Channel Hopping Mode of IEEE 802.15.4e (6TiSCH)
>      >>>> 9032 - IPv6 over the Time-Slotted Channel Hopping Mode of IEEE 802.15.4e (6TiSCH) Information
>      >>>> Element Encapsulation of Join and Enrollment Information
>      >>>> 9033 - Minimal Scheduling Function for IPv6 over the Time-Slotted Channel Hopping Mode of IEEE 802.15.4e (6TiSCH)
>      >>>>
>      >>>> -- Option B (if not expanding "6TiSCH"):
>      >>>> 9030 - An Architecture for 6TiSCH
>      >>>> 9031 - Constrained Join Protocol (CoJP) for 6TiSCH
>      >>>> 9032 - IEEE 802.15.4 Information Element Encapsulation of 6TiSCH Join and Enrollment Information
>      >>>>    -> [or perhaps it could be simplified as follows or otherwise.]
>      >>>>       Encapsulation of 6TiSCH Join and Enrollment Information Elements
>      >>>> 9033 - 6TiSCH Minimal Scheduling Function (MSF)
>      >>>>
>      >>>> Thank you.
>      >>>> RFC Editor/ar
>      >>>> --
>      >>>>
>      >>>> Relevant files:
>      >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9030.html
>      >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9031.html
>      >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9032.html (draft-ietf-6tisch-enrollment-enhanced-beacon-14; not yet available)
>      >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9033.html
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