Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"
Erik Kline <ek@google.com> Mon, 12 June 2017 06:17 UTC
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From: Erik Kline <ek@google.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:17:18 +0900
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Subject: Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captive Portal"
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> > (the 511 error page does not seem to be the worst variant.. if the user > sees an error in the browser > then the next reload puts him to the correct walled garden page) > Some observations, and questions for the working group. I'm not sure we have enough input on whether 511 is useful or not. There seemed to be some suggestion it would help, and some that it wouldn't. Perhaps one question we could ask is whether it's harmful? And if we agree it's not harmful, is it worth developing some recommendations for its use? As for the ICMP unreachable option, I certainly don't think it would be harmful (with the extra URL bits removed for now). Is that something we wish to progress? Given that we're probably looking at a portal detection method based on entirely new work, it seems to me we're free to look at new things like utilizing the PVD detection scheme (DNS queries for "provisioning domain names", followed by other interaction still TBD). Have the portal implementors reviewed this and given consideration as to whether its useful? (I think of the discovery of the portal and subsequent interaction with it as 2 separate processes conducted, obviously, in serial.) Thoughts?
- [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Captiv… Heiko Folkerts
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… David Bird
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Dave Dolson
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Warren Kumari
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Erik Kline
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Gunther Nitzsche
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… David Bird
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Gunther Nitzsche
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… David Bird
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Dave Dolson
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Vincent van Dam
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Erik Kline
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Gunther Nitzsche
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Erik Kline
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… David Bird
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Vincent van Dam
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Dave Dolson
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Erik Kline
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Dave Dolson
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… David Bird
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Dave Dolson
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Dave Dolson
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [Captive-portals] Use Case: "Carrier Grade Ca… David Bird