Re: [CCAMP] WSON updates for Optical Interface Classes

Greg Bernstein <gregb@grotto-networking.com> Thu, 16 August 2012 23:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WSON updates for Optical Interface Classes
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Hi Lyndon and CCAMPers, we have updated the drafts with your suggested 
changes. Please see:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode-16
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-info-16

The authors believe that these drafts and the draft

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf-10 


are now ready for last call.
Best Regards
Greg

On 8/16/2012 3:07 PM, Ong, Lyndon wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> Well my two cents would be the following:
>
> 1) WSON encoding draft, section 5.2:
> The Optical Interface Class format is defined within [x-ref-tbd].
>
> Propose to remove the sentence as the format is defined within the encoding draft itself.
>
> 2) WSON information model draft, section 5.3:
> Where the term <OPTICAL_INT_CLASS> is defined by [xyz?].
>
> Propose to replace the sentence with text from draft-martinelli section 3.1 (with some grammatical edits):
>     The Optical Interface Class is a unique number that identifies all
>     information related to optical characteristics of a physical
>     interface.  The class may include other optical parameters related
>     to other interface properties.  A class MUST always include signal
>     compatibility information.
>
>     The content of each class is out of the scope of this draft and can
>     be defined by other entities (e.g.  ITU, optical equipment vendors,
>     etc.).
>
>     Since even current implementation of physical interfaces may support
>     different optical characteristics, a single interface may support
>     multiple interface classes.  Which optical interface class is used
>     among all the ones available for an interface is out of the scope
>     of this draft but is an output of the RWA process.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lyndon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Bernstein [mailto:gregb@grotto-networking.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 2:51 PM
> To: Ong, Lyndon
> Cc: Lou Berger; CCAMP; draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WSON updates for Optical Interface Classes
>
> We implemented the WSON Info changes requested in Giovanni's CCAMP list email dated 07/05/2012. Don't know what those references were referring to.  Please review changes to updated WSON info and WSON encoding drafts and send us any deltas.
> Best Regards
> Greg
> On 8/16/2012 9:45 AM, Ong, Lyndon wrote:
>> Hi Greg, Lou,
>>
>> Sorry, a little confused - aren't you defining the OIC format within the wson encoding draft itself?  I would think the external references you need are for the ITU-T application codes, rather than the OIC format.  Am I missing something?
>>
>> The ITU-T references would be
>> [ITU-G.698.1] ITU-T Recommendation G.698.1, "Multichannel DWDM
>> applications with single-channel optical interfaces", November, 2009.
>> [ITU-G.698.2] ITU-T Recommendation G.698.2, "Amplified multichannel dense wavelength division multiplexing applications with single channel optical interfaces", November, 2009.
>> [ITU-G.959.1] ITU-T Recommendation G.959.1, "Optical transport networks physical layer interfaces", February, 2012.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Lyndon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
>> Of Greg Bernstein
>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:19 AM
>> To: Lou Berger
>> Cc: CCAMP; draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling@tools.ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WSON updates for Optical Interface Classes
>>
>> Hi Lou, I'll try to update today or tomorrow.  On WSON routing, I still haven't heard from the OIC draft authors on resolving the undefined references mentioned below.
>> Best Regards
>> Greg
>> On 8/15/2012 2:40 PM, Lou Berger wrote:
>>> Greg/Authors,
>>> 	When do you expect to have a rev of the signaling draft to match the
>>> recent updates (including the previous addition of WSON-LSC type)?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lou
>>>
>>> On 8/8/2012 1:04 PM, Greg Bernstein wrote:
>>>> Hi CCAMPers, per working group consensus we have updated the
>>>> following WSON drafts:
>>>>
>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibilit
>>>> y
>>>> -ospf-10
>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode-15
>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-info-15.
>>>>
>>>> We have removed "modulation type", "FEC type", and "Bit rate range" and replace with the "Optical Interface Class".
>>>> We have applied the changes suggested on the CCAMP list and in the OIC draft.
>>>> There are some undefined references that need to be filled in by the authors of the OIC draft.
>>>> Please furnish references or suitable text.
>>>> Info draft:
>>>> ..."Where the term <OPTICAL_INT_CLASS> is defined by [xyz]."
>>>>               
>>>> Encoding draft:
>>>> ..."The Optical Interface Class format is defined within [x-ref-tbd]."
>>>>
>>>> See updated drafts for further context. Also if an encoding example
>>>> is desired for appendix A of the encoding draft please furnish.
>>>>
>>>> To ease and expedite further changes on the OIC issue MS Word
>>>> versions of these documents can be found at:
>>>> http://www.grotto-networking.com/sites/default/files/draft-ietf-ccam
>>>> p -wson-signal-compatibility-ospf-10a.docx
>>>> http://www.grotto-networking.com/sites/default/files/draft-ietf-ccam
>>>> p
>>>> -rwa-wson-encode-15a.docx
>>>> http://www.grotto-networking.com/sites/default/files/draft-ietf-ccam
>>>> p
>>>> -rwa-info-15a.docx
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>> Greg B.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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