Re: [CCAMP] AD review: draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-03

"BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" <db3546@att.com> Wed, 25 May 2016 21:20 UTC

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From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" <db3546@att.com>
To: "Matt Hartley (mhartley)" <mhartley@cisco.com>, "draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3@ietf.org>
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Hi Matt,
Great - Thanks- I'll start the IETF Last Call.
Deborah


From: Matt Hartley (mhartley) [mailto:mhartley@cisco.com]
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Subject: RE: AD review: draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-03

Deborah,

Markups done, and v4 posted.

Cheers

Matt

From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com]
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Subject: AD review: draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-03

Hi,

I've reviewed this draft, and have a few comments:

*         The document is Informational, I don't think we can say it "Updates" RFC7139. Remove this.
*         In the Abstract, remove "updates RFC 7139" to say "This document defines new signal types for these additional containers".
*         Even though the document shepherd write-up has the rationale on why this is Informational, I think we need a couple of sentences in the draft itself. I suggest we add to the end of the Introduction:
"These containers are non-standard data plane frame formats (not defined in ITU-T Recommendations). They are among some of the intra-domain approaches used in networks for transport of 10GBASE-R signals in optical transport networks. As a Supplement, [G.Sup43], does not guarantee interoperability in the data plane for these containers."

Thanks,
Deborah