RE: DPPM [was: New CCAMP I-Ds]
"Weiqiang Sun" <sunwq@sjtu.edu.cn> Thu, 20 March 2008 06:32 UTC
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From: Weiqiang Sun <sunwq@sjtu.edu.cn>
To: 'Adrian Farrel' <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, 'Attila Takacs' <Attila.Takacs@ericsson.com>, ccamp@ops.ietf.org
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Subject: RE: DPPM [was: New CCAMP I-Ds]
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:22:48 +0800
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Hi Attila and Adrian, Thanks for the comments. Our knowledge of the performance metrics and related methodologies has largely come from existing and ongoing documents, as well as some discussions in a discussion group. For your reference, I listed below a few examples that put the PM docs in the standard category: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2679.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-duplicate-03.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pmol-sip-perf-metrics-00.txt Also, there are a few other similar ones developed as informational docs: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-multimetrics-06.txt Personally, I think it is more appropriate to put the doc in the standard track, since it proposes not only the metrics and motivations, but the methodologies as well. The methodologies can be implementation references for certain users of the metrics, such as online measurement entities and testing devices. So far this doc has been developing in a discussion group and also in an offline manner. We expect to receive more feedbacks from the WG as we are settling down with the motivations, and can thus be more focused on metrics and methodologies. Also, we will try to solicit comments from other related WGs such as PMOL, BMWG and IPPM. It is indeed a wonderful idea to develop this document under the guidance of CCAMP experts and also with the support from performance metrics experts. Cheers, Weiqiang -----Original Message----- From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:24 AM To: Attila Takacs; ccamp@ops.ietf.org Subject: DPPM [was: New CCAMP I-Ds] Attila wrote >> draft-xie-ccamp-lsp-dppm-02.txt > Yes. However, I'm not sure if this needs to be a standard, shouldn't it > be just informational? Yse, I agree. Actually, there are one or two IETF-culture things to tweak in this I-D, and I prpose to give the authors a little help if we agree to take it into CCAMP. Cheers, Adrian
- New CCAMP I-Ds Adrian Farrel
- RE: New CCAMP I-Ds Diego Caviglia
- Re: New CCAMP I-Ds JP Vasseur
- Re: New CCAMP I-Ds Greg Bernstein
- RE: New CCAMP I-Ds Zafar Ali (zali)
- RE: New CCAMP I-Ds Young Lee
- Re: New CCAMP I-Ds Dan Li
- RE: New CCAMP I-Ds Weiqiang Sun
- Re: New CCAMP I-Ds Kenji Kumaki
- Re: New CCAMP I-Ds Mach Chen
- RE: New CCAMP I-Ds Diego Caviglia
- Re: New CCAMP I-Ds Gino Carrozzo
- RE: New CCAMP I-Ds Howard Green
- RE: New CCAMP I-Ds Capello Alessandro
- RE: New CCAMP I-Ds Attila Takacs
- RE: New CCAMP I-Ds Rich Bradford (rbradfor)
- RE: New CCAMP I-Ds Bardalai, Snigdho
- DPPM [was: New CCAMP I-Ds] Adrian Farrel
- RE: New CCAMP I-Ds julien.meuric
- RE: DPPM [was: New CCAMP I-Ds] Weiqiang Sun
- RE: New CCAMP I-Ds Don Fedyk
- New CCAMP I-Ds Approved Adrian Farrel
- Editorial comment about draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm… Adrian Farrel
- RE: Editorial comment about draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-… Weiqiang Sun