Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-takacs-ccamp-revertive-ps
Dieter Beller <Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com> Sun, 10 November 2013 14:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-takacs-ccamp-revertive-ps
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this draft is defining signaling extensions for the hold-off time as well as the wait-to-restore time for protected LSPs
where applicable.
There are default values set for these timers in the data plane and signaling them in the control plane makes only
sense if the timer values shall differ from the default values. Do you see a need for that? IMO, operators typically
use the defaults and do not set these values on a per connection basis.
Thanks,
Dieter
Hi Lou- You are right, the ctype is TBD, like I mentioned during the meeting that we are using different ctype. We would like to take this opportunity to solicit comments from the WG on this draft. Thanks Regards Š Zafar -----Original Message----- From: "lberger@labn.net" <lberger@labn.net> Date: Thursday, November 7, 2013 6:17 PM To: zali <zali@cisco.com>, "ccamp@ietf.org" <ccamp@ietf.org> Subject: Comment on compatibility in draft-takacs-ccamp-revertive-psZafar, My comment in today's session was that you are redefining the format of an existing object (by adding TLVs) this breaks compatibility. You stated that this wasn't the case. FWIW: Your document says: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Length | Class-Num(37) | C-Type(2) | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |S|P|N|O| Reserved | LSP Flags | Reserved | Link Flags| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |I|R| Reserved | Seg.Flags | Reserved | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | | ~ sub-TLVs ~ | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ RFC4872 says 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Length | Class-Num(37) | C-Type (2) | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |S|P|N|O| Reserved | LSP Flags | Reserved | Link Flags| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Reserved | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Perhaps you meant C-Type(TBD). You should address compatibility explicitly in any case. Lou_______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp" rel="nofollow">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp
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- [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-takacs-… Lou Berger
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Lou Berger
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Dieter Beller
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Fatai Zhang
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Fatai Zhang
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Fatai Zhang
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… John E Drake
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… John E Drake
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Acee Lindem
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Francesco Fondelli
- Re: [CCAMP] Comment on compatibility in draft-tak… Rajan Rao