Re: Multi-Area TE Protocol Extensions

Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be Tue, 10 December 2002 19:43 UTC

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To: Jean Philippe Vasseur <jvasseur@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: Multi-Area TE Protocol Extensions
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jp,

> this ID does not propose a mechanism to compute inter-area TE path

well i would say that either none of them does it, or all of
them, more accurately route exclusions are applicable to any 
mpls network where full computation of the ero is not performed 
before the LSP is signaled, implying thus a "scope" for computed
path thus among other applicable to multiple areas - nevertheless
i agree that a next version of this i-d should probably include
an applicability section covering this in a bit more details (see
also section 4.1 for an example -

this said and as for any other input or i-d provided on constraint-
passing (as well as path query, btw) lot of work is still needed to
achieve a decent first step in this effort; 

thanks,
- dimitri.

Jean Philippe Vasseur wrote:
> 
> Hi Dimitri,
> 
> cc'ing CCAMP - see in line,
> 
> At 17:45 10/12/2002 +0100, Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be wrote:
> >jp,
> >
> >in fact the below list should simply be as follows for
> >signalling-based methods: 1) constraint-passing 2) loose
> >routing and 3) path query;
> >
> >and the for constraint-passing we have a several i-d's
> >such as,
> >
> >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lee-ccamp-rsvp-te-exclude-route-01.txt
> >
> 
> this ID does not propose a mechanism to compute inter-area TE path
> 
> >constraint passing may also be extended using the crank-
> >back as listed below; the usage scenarios of these methods
> >are described in the following:
> >
> >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kompella-mpls-multiarea-te-03.txt
> >
> >now probably it is worth spending some time in considering
> >input coming from the tewg wrt to this effort, most of the
> >input that you see listed above has been produced over the
> >past year (and more) i can't imagine stepping in the protocol
> >details without a clear consensus on what do we want to cover
> >within the ccamp wg & w/o taking into account the tewg rec's
> >(probably better to discuss this on the ccamp mailing list)
> 
> Fully agree with you. Hopefully multi-area TE should be soon part of the
> CCAMP charter.
> 
> JP.
> 
> >thanks,
> >- dimitri.
> >
> >Jean Philippe Vasseur wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > At 13:53 10/12/2002 +0530, sachin laddha wrote:
> > > >Hi,
> > > >'draft-ash-multi-area-te-reqmts-01.txt' stated in section 5 as
> > > >"Initial requirements are given here for protocol support of the
> > multi-area
> > > >TE methods, which include needs to support
> > > >
> > > >*       path-computation-server (PCS) functionality [kompella, lee,
> > vasseur,
> > > >te-qos-routing],
> > > >*       query functionality [query, vasseur],
> > > >*       crankback functionality [crankback],
> > > >
> > > >and, optionally,
> > > >
> > > >*       TE feedback functionality [feedback], and
> > > >*       summary-LSA functionality [summary_lsa]."
> > > >.
> > > >I want to know whether cisco/juniper routers (standard ones) supports
> > all of
> > > >the above extension.
> > > >or if not,how many.......or Whether router is supposed to support how many
> > > >...
> > >
> > > I do not think any vendor supports all the method mentioned above, but just
> > > a subset. If you are running a network, your feed-backs on your preferred
> > > method is very welcome.
> > >
> > > JP.
> > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >---Sachin
> >
> >--
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