Re: Route Exclusion
"Adrian Farrel" <afarrel@movaz.com> Tue, 10 June 2003 19:16 UTC
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From: Adrian Farrel <afarrel@movaz.com>
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Cc: stefaan.de_cnodder@alcatel.be, Cheng-Yin.Lee@alcatel.com, Ron Bonica <Ronald.P.Bonica@mci.com>, 'Kireeti Kompella' <kireeti@juniper.net>
Subject: Re: Route Exclusion
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:16:25 -0400
All, Ron has asked me to post a summary of where this work fits into the WG and, unless there are objections within the next couple of days, to post the existing draft (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lee-ccamp-rsvp-te-exclude-route-02.tx t) without revisions, as a WG draft. This is a third last chance to object :-) The draft specifies ways to communicate route exclusions during path setup using RSVP-TE. Route exclusions are useful when full path computation is not performed at the head of an LSP. This happens when - an external route server is used (see draft-vasseur-mpls-path-computation-rsvp-te) - there are domains of computation (such as, but not limited to, areas and ASs) - loose hops or non-specific abstract nodes are used. Route exclusion allows the LSP requester to communicate the requirement to avoid nodes, links, resources or SRLGs. This may result from - user requests in the MPLS-TE-MIB (see draft-ietf-mpls-te-mib) - protection diversity requirements (see draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-recovery-analysis etc.) - crankback and local repair avoidance of errored or blocked resources (see draft-iwata-mpls-crankback) Applicability is to packet and non-packet networks. MPLS and GMPLS. Requirements also come from - the ITU-T's ASON architecture (see draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-reqts) Value is present in single area/AS systems. The concept is also applicable to multi-area/multi-AS TE. With regard to the *existing* CCAMP charter, this work is covered by many of the charter items, but best by: - Define signalling protocols and measurement protocols such that they support multiple physical path and tunnel technologies - Abstract link and path properties needed for link and path protection. Define signalling mechanisms for path protection, diverse routing and fast path restoration. Ensure that multi-layer path protection and restoration functions are achievable using the defined signalling and measurement protocols, either separately or in combination. It is possible that the revised charter will include - multi-area/multi-AS - explicit recognition of the ASON requirements Further details can be found in the draft. The authors would be happy (sic) to answer any questions, preferably on the list. Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Bonica" <Ronald.P.Bonica@mci.com> To: "Adrian Farrel" <afarrel@movaz.com>; "'Kireeti Kompella'" <kireeti@juniper.net>; <ccamp@ops.ietf.org> Cc: <stefaan.de_cnodder@alcatel.be>; <Cheng-Yin.Lee@alcatel.com> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:06 AM Subject: RE: Route Exclusion > Folks, > > Are there any objections to adopting the route exclusion draft as a WG item? > If so, please post them to the mailing list by June 5. If not, CCAMP will > adopt the draft as a WG item. > > Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org]On > > Behalf Of Adrian Farrel > > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 3:57 PM > > To: 'Kireeti Kompella'; Ron Bonica; ccamp@ops.ietf.org > > Cc: stefaan.de_cnodder@alcatel.be; Cheng-Yin.Lee@alcatel.com; Adrian > > Farrel > > Subject: Route Exclusion > > > > > > Kireeti, Ron, > > > > You may recall that at SF there was a surprisingly large number > > of people (30+) > > who had read this draft and expressed an interest. (In today's > > climate, it seems > > unusual if all of the authors have read a draft!) > > > > We (the authors) are also seeing a fair bit of interest expressed > > to us from > > people who need the function and want to go ahead and start > > implementing - they > > want to know what the future of the draft is. At the same time, > > the ASON work > > seems to be pulling in this requirement, and I shouldn't be surprised if > > multi-area/multi-domain/multi-AS decides it is a requirement, too. > > > > So the question for you is, what do we do with this draft? > > > > There appear to be three possibilies: > > > > 1. The draft becomes a WG draft in the near future, and continues > > to develop > > with input from the WG. > > > > 2. The authors continue to spend their efforts on the draft with > > no particular > > IETF target in sight and without the GMPLS community having any realistic > > expectation of the draft going anywhere. Other standards bodies, > > needing the > > function, develop their own alternatives and so on... > > > > 3. The authors bring the draft forward as an individual > > submission to the IESG. > > > > Well, you can guess which I think is the best idea. > > > > What do you think? > > > > Cheers, > > Adrian > > > > > > >
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