Re: [CCAMP] Input for Terminology discussion: UNI definitions across different SDOs

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Fri, 08 November 2013 00:14 UTC

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From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
To: Dieter Beller <Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com>, "Zhangxian (Xian)" <zhang.xian@huawei.com>, Oscar González de Dios <ogondio@tid.es>, CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Input for Terminology discussion: UNI definitions across different SDOs
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While referencing ITU-T documents and terminology is certainly something we 
often do in CCAMP, I think the foundation of the WG's activity is first 
within the IETF and RFCs.

Lou


On November 7, 2013 3:19:33 PM Dieter Beller 
<Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> ITU-T
>
> Recommendation G.8080 is probably the most appropriate
> reference as far as the existing UNI definitions are
> concerned from a CCAMP perspective. The OIF UNI/E-NNI work was
> based on the architecture and definition of the
> UNI/E-NNI reference points in G.8080.
>
> Please note that there is no UNI protocol defined to convey reachability
>
> information - the assumption was that this
> information needs to be configured on the CE device (UNI-C side).
> A protocol for conveying this information is
> certainly something that can be considered as a future add-on.
> Policy rules are required on the network side of the
> UNI as to what reachbility information should be provided to a
> specific CE device (-->VPNs).
>
> Thanks,
> Dieter
>
> On 07.11.2013 22:33, Zhangxian (Xian)
> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Oscar. It indeed helps me to understand the UNI
> better.
>  
> Previously I thought the UNI defintion would include allowing
> for reachability information across this interface. Clearly,
> it DOES NOT from the text you provide below.
>  
> So, i double-checked RFC4208, it turns out that this
> "reachability information" is mentioned when talking about
> overlay model:
>  
> " In the overlay model, the core-nodes act more as a closed
> system. The edge-nodes do not participate
>   in the routing protocol instance that runs among the core
> nodes; in particular, the edge-nodes are unaware
> of the topology of the core-nodes.  There may, however, be a
> routing protocol interaction between
>    a core-node and an edge-node for the exchange of
> reachability information to other edge-nodes."
>
> Hope this helps a bit on clarification and ongoing
> discussion.
>  
> Regards,
> Xian
>
> 发件人: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org
> [ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]
> 代表 Oscar González de Dios [ogondio@tid.es]
> 发送时间: 2013年11月8日 3:25
> 收件人: CCAMP
> 主题: [CCAMP] Input for Terminology discussion: UNI
> definitions across different SDOs
>
> Hi all,
>
> As inputs for the
> terminology discussions, please find bellow a set of
> definitions for UNI coming from different SDOs (with a
> short reference, they are easy to find with the number):
>
> [G.807] (ITU-T): "User-Network
> Interface for the control plane (UNI): A bidirectional
> signaling interface between service requester and service
> provider control plane entities."
>
> In the same document:
> "UNI: This interface supports, as a minimum, the following
> information elements:
> ?  End-point name and
> address;
> ?  Authentication and
> connection admission control;
> ?  Connection service
> messages.”
>
> [G.8081] (ITU-T):
> "user-network interface for the control plane (UNI): An
> UNI is a bidirectional signaling interface between service
> requester and service provider control plane entities.”
>
> [G.8080] (ITU-T): “UNI
> Information flows expected
> across the UNI reference point support the following
> functions:
> - call control
> - resource discovery
> - connection control
> - connection selection.
> Note, there is no routing
> function associated with the UNI reference point.
> Additional functions such as security and authentication
> of calls, or enhanced directory services,
> may be added to this basic set of functions."
>
> [RFC3717]: “The
> client-optical internetwork interface (UNI) represents a
> service boundary between the client (e.g., IP router) and
> the optical network.  The client and server (optical
> network) are essentially two different roles: the client
> role requests a service connection from a server; the
> server role establishes the connection to fulfill the
> service request — provided all relevant admission control
> conditions are satisfied.”
>
>    [OIF UNI1.0]: UNI:
> “The service control interface between a client device
> and the transport network.”
>  UNI-C: ”The logical
> entity that terminates UNI signalling on the client
> device side.”
> UNI-N:
>
> “The logical entity that terminates UNI signalling on
> the transport network side.”
>
>        [MEF 11]: “The
> MEF UNI is a reference point for all interactions
> between Subscribers of MEF defined services and the
> MEN Service Provider.”
>
> Hope
>
> it helps in the discussions,
>
> Best
>
> Regards,
>
> Oscar
>
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