Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for feedback
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Subject: Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for feedback
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Hi Tessa, Steve, cellar, > On Sep 18, 2016, at 3:44 AM, Steve Lhomme <slhomme@matroska.org> wrote: > > 2016-09-13 15:58 GMT+02:00 Tessa Fallon <tessa.fallon@gmail.com>: >> At the CELLAR meeting in July, it was decided that working group milestones >> would need to be revised. The current list is below. >> >> Would those working on FFV1, EBML, and Matroska weigh in on the state of the >> specifications and projected timelines for work to be completed? I note >> that the most recent changes to EBML were submitted on Sunday 9/11. Where >> does this leave the document? > > It's an on-going effort. There are currently 16 issues opened on the > EBML specs alone: > https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues <https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues> EBML is down to 7 issues now, though some are ideas/considerations rather than issues. I propose that a milestone for submitting EBML to IESG is reset to a date in the near-future (end of March), and nudge for more comprehensive peer-reviews of the EBML specification. > There are 5 on Matroska but that's because most of the effort has been > concentrated on EBML yet: > https://github.com/Matroska-Org/matroska-specification/issues <https://github.com/Matroska-Org/matroska-specification/issues> Matroska is now up to 19 issues since it’s been more active lately. It’s certainly a large specification so perhaps we should set a new list of more granular milestones for the components of the specification: - attachments - chapters / menu - codec_specs - cues - diagram - the EBML Schema of Matroska - index / notes / order_guidelines / streaming - subtitles - tagging / metadata Volunteers to manage a review of the state of each component? With FFV1, there’s 6 open issues and half refer to future version enhancements. Volunteers willing, I think it’s likely a version 0, 1, 2, 3 specification of FFV1 could be ready to submit to the IESG at the end of March as well. However these depend on sufficient peer-reviews. Perhaps we could collaborate with one of the other audiovisual working groups for a cross-peer-review. Here’s a new draft of a milestone list, please comment/advice: ? Submit specification for FLAC audio codec to IESG (Standards Track) Jul 2017 Submit specification for FFV1 video codec version 4 to IESG (Standards Track) Sep 2017 Submit specification for Matroska container format version 4 to IESG (Standards Track) Mar 2017 Submit informational specification for FFV1 video codec versions 0, 1 and 3 to IESG for publication Mar 2017 Submit specification for EBML to IESG (Standards Track) May 2017 Submit informational specification for Matroska container format versions 1, 2 and 3 to IESG for publication Although since Matroska version 4 has been in use for so longer, perhaps the milestone to work on a future Matroska version should be changed to ‘version 5’ rather than 4. Also FLAC? There’s been a few volunteer to get this started (self included), but as far as I know, there’s no progress on this specification. Thanks much, Dave > There are way more elements to defined in Matroska, various > interactions between them and all kinds of loopholes that we need to > iron out. > >> Much thanks, >> Tessa >> >> Date >> Dec 2016 Submit specification for FLAC audio codec to IESG (Standards Track) >> Sep 2016 Submit specification for FFV1 video codec version 4 to IESG >> (Standards Track) >> Jul 2016 Submit specification for Matroska container format version 4 to >> IESG (Standards Track) >> Jul 2016 Submit informational specification for FFV1 video codec versions 0, >> 1 and 3 to IESG for publication >> Jun 2016 Submit specification for EBML to IESG (Standards Track) >> Jun 2016 Submit informational specification for Matroska container format >> versions 1, 2 and 3 to IESG for publication >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cellar mailing list >> Cellar@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar >> > > > > -- > Steve Lhomme > Matroska association Chairman > > _______________________________________________ > Cellar mailing list > Cellar@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar
- [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for fee… Tessa Fallon
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Steve Lhomme
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Dave Rice
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Tessa Fallon
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Brian Willoughby
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Pierre-Yves Thoulon
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Peter B.
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Jerome Martinez
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Jerome Martinez
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Andrew James Weaver