Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements
Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> Fri, 15 January 2016 11:00 UTC
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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
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Subject: Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements
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On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 09:10:27AM +0100, Moritz Bunkus wrote: > Hey, [...] > > > My usecase for checksums was indeed just error recovery. > > Just to be clear. "Error recovery" usually means both "error detection" > and "error correction". CRCs are only meant and useful for the > recovery. On their own they don't do anything for correction. Its possible to correct single bit, burst and some multi bit errors with CRCs it depends on the CRC polynom used and on the data length see: http://guru.multimedia.cx/index.php?s=crc+correcting [... -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms. -- Aristotle
- [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Michael Bradshaw
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Dave Rice
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Moritz Bunkus
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Steve Lhomme
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Dave Rice
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Steve Lhomme
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Sebastian G. <bastik>
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Steve Lhomme
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Michael Niedermayer
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Dave Rice
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Sebastian G. <bastik>
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Dave Rice
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Dave Rice
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Steve Lhomme
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Steve Lhomme
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Michael Niedermayer
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Dave Rice
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Moritz Bunkus
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Steve Lhomme
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Sebastian G. <bastik>
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Dave Rice
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Dave Rice
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Moritz Bunkus
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Moritz Bunkus
- Re: [Cellar] On the multiplicity of Info elements Michael Niedermayer