Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher
Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Wed, 20 May 2015 23:55 UTC
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Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 18:55:00 -0500
From: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher
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On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 01:22:44AM +0200, Mark McCarron wrote: > The cipher uses random noise to move bits/bytes whilst XORing the > [...] If they are random then you have to send them (and they won't compress). So now you have two problems: how to encrypt data, and how to encrypt the one-time pad (so you can send it, so the recipient can use it to decrypt the plaintext). Not to mention the lack of integrity protection. > The claims are not drawn from thin air, they are accurate statements > of the process. [...] Your claims show lack of experience. One-time pads are perfect if never reused and if you hand-wave away the problem of how to securely distribute the pads in the first place. But it's difficult to ensure that pads are never reused. And it's difficult to securely exchange/distribute one-time pads. In short, one-time pads are not practical. (Stream ciphers generate a pad for XORing, but by using small keys to generate the pad, their key management problems are reduced to the same sort of problem as for block ciphers.) Nico --
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- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Nico Williams
- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Paul Lambert
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- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Mark McCarron
- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Tony Arcieri
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- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Mark McCarron
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- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Mark McCarron
- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Mark McCarron
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- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Stephen Farrell
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- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Mark McCarron
- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Salz, Rich
- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Mark McCarron
- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Mark McCarron
- Re: [Cfrg] Crystalline Cipher Tony Arcieri
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