Re: [Cfrg] Request For Opinions
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Alex Alten wrote: >At 06:05 PM 5/10/2003 +0000, David Wagner wrote: >>I don't think you've thought about this carefully enough. Use public-key >>crypto to exchange a shared AES key, and then you can re-key using that >>AES key just as you would if you weren't using public-key crypto. > >OK, I agree this is a scenario where RSA is used to exchange a single AES >over a long session of packets is fine. But if I'm doing single packets, and >changing AES keys a lot, it doesn't work very well. So don't do that, then. No one said you need to use RSA on every packet. Come on. This is getting really silly! Patient: "Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I use RSA on every packet." Doctor: "Don't do that, then." >That's not what I mean't. SSL has both high PK and hash costs. Most of >my response was discussing the PK performance penalty limiting high- >performance design choices. David at least you can admit to the >reasonableness of that statement. Right? That's ridiculous. The public-key in SSL has nothing to do with whether its hash function or MAC primitive is fast or slow. Again, I don't think you've thought about this carefully enough. _______________________________________________ Cfrg mailing list Cfrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
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