Re: [Cfrg] Request For Opinions
Gé Weijers <Ge.Weijers@Sun.COM> Tue, 13 May 2003 19:00 UTC
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Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 11:57:00 -0700
From: Gé Weijers <Ge.Weijers@Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Request For Opinions
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On Tue, 13 May 2003, Alex Alten wrote: > The facts about PK are: > 1. Key generation is dog slow > 2. Key setup is damn slow. > 3. Encryption is like watching grass grow or paint to dry. 4. It's often the only tool that gets the job done. If we cannot solve a problem satisfactorily using our usual symmetric primitives like PRPs, PRFs, hash functions, MACs etc. we will have to resort to more expensive primitives. They're the cheapest ones that get the job done. Some operations are actually quite efficient, for example RSA encryption using a low exponent (3 or 65537). I wrote a signature verification routine in portable C about 4-5 years back, to verify Rabin-based signatures. The large integer routines were home grown and far from optimized. Verification took about 1 ms on a 200 Mhz pentium clone processor (1024 bit keys). Our hardware is at least 10 times faster now, so we're probably talking about 100us verification times. Signature generation (2 512-bit exponentiations and an application of Garner's algorithm) took 500 ms using a good bignum library, so on current hardware we're probably getting close to 50 ms. No paint dries this fast. Some new processors have instruction sets optimized to perform big number arithmetic efficiently, so this will soon even be less of an issue. And if you're really in a hurry you can buy accellerators that perform modular exponentiation in hardware. Ge' -- Gé Weijers mailto:ge.weijers@sun.com _______________________________________________ Cfrg mailing list Cfrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
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