Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures
Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com> Thu, 02 January 2020 19:57 UTC
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From: Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 14:57:42 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures
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I'd be interested in comparing / contrasting your scheme to prior art with running code, notably: - KZen's Multiparty EdDSA, a straightforward application of distributed threshold Schnorr to Ed25519: https://github.com/KZen-networks/multi-party-eddsa - CoSi, a Merkle-tree based approach for collective Ed25519 signing targeting something more along the lines of a consensus protocol: https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ford-cfrg-cosi-00.html On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 2:28 PM Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> wrote: > OK so with quite a bit of help, have got a prototype of threshold > signatures going. There is a bit more to the draft than just the algorithm > though as the way the scheme is presented and packaged has consequences. > > From the presentation side, I want to be able to argue that the threshold > sig scheme has (almost) precisely the same security properties as the > RFC8032 scheme. Which means that the core of the presentation must align as > closely as possible with the RFC8032 scheme. > > There are some subtle design choices that don't impact security but may > well have impact on specific use cases. The use cases I am currently > considering are > > 1) HSM module: One or both parts of the signature key shares are located > in a HSM providing resistance against extraction of the public key. This is > an important use case as we want the operation of the HSM to be stateless. > The signing algorithm requires multiple rounds, in the first round, the > signer commits to a value R_i = r_i..B. In the second round, the value r_i > is used. So it is kinda important to construct r_i in such fashion that the > HSM can restore it from one round to the next even though it may have > performed other operations in the meantime. > > Another issue that comes up with HSMs is auditability. The construction of > r_i must be auditalble which means it must be deterministic. > > 2) Code signing: The code signing role is split across two or more signers > and MAY permit a signature to be created by a quorum smaller than the total > number of authorized signers (n, t). Signing quorums may prove particularly > attractive for open source projects. > > I have introduced a new role, of coordinator for the party that manages > the process. > > Are there additional use cases that should be considered. That is use > cases that raise additional requirements. The need to sign blockchains is > often raised but that doesn't seem to raise additional requirements over > code signing. > > _______________________________________________ > Cfrg mailing list > Cfrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > -- Tony Arcieri
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- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Jeff Burdges
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Bill Cox
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Bill Cox
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Dan Wing
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- Re: [Cfrg] Threshold signatures Phillip Hallam-Baker
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