Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps
Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> Mon, 31 August 2015 13:42 UTC
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On Aug 31, 2015 9:09 AM, "Simon Josefsson" <simon@josefsson.org> wrote: > > Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> writes: > > > - are there important characteristics or points of comparison that > > Ilari's summary does not cover? > > 1) Maturity. Ed25519 was published through CHES in 2011 and has been > peer-reviewed since then. I would appreciate if someone could find > dates of publications on the other proposals and find out how much of > scientific review they have seen. > > 2) Implementation status. There are many Ed25519 implementations > around, many are freely available with source code under liberal > licenses. Understanding the status of the other proposals would be > useful too. > > 3) Deployment. Ed25519 is implemented and deployed by two IETF > protocols (SSH and OpenPGP), with more on their way. There are many > libraries around for implementation, see > <http://ianix.com/pub/ed25519-deployment.html>. > > > - are there errors of fact or omission that need to be corrected? > > 1) I don't understand by this part of Ilari's writeup: 'dictated by > ???'. > > 2) I disagree with 'Neither personalization nor firewalling is > supported.'. As far as I understand what Ilari intend, both are > supported in the sense that they can be added by a higher-level > abstraction, which I believe is a more appropriate approach than jamming > this into the signature primitive. > > 3) What is NPOT? At this point I see no reason not to recommend EdDSA as the result. > > /Simon > > _______________________________________________ > Cfrg mailing list > Cfrg@mail.ietf.org > https://mail.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg >
- [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Simon Josefsson
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Watson Ladd
- [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Dan Brown
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Dan Brown
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Simon Josefsson
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Ilari Liusvaara
- [Cfrg] Side inputs to signature systems D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [Cfrg] Side inputs to signature systems Natanael
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Simon Josefsson
- Re: [Cfrg] Side inputs to signature systems Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Rene Struik
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps David Jacobson
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Mike Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps William Whyte
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [Cfrg] EC signature: next steps Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… Dan Brown
- [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key security D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… Sven Schäge
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… William Whyte
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… Bill Cox
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… Eike Kiltz
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [Cfrg] key as message prefix => multi-key sec… Simon Josefsson