Re: [CGA-EXT] Next steps

Roque Gagliano <roque@lacnic.net> Wed, 18 November 2009 14:07 UTC

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Marcelo,

I would like to start the discussion on how the host should fetch the CRLs. This will serve as a base for a future I-D.

We have at least three options:

1) To specify the  "Certificate Revocation Solicitation /  Certificate Revocation Advertisement" messages just like in SEND to request certificates.

	Advantages:
		- The router could cache the CRLs, which will be the same ones for most of the hosts. More-over the certs and the CRL may be pre-loaded by the router which only needs to check for a new CRL before the "next update".
		- Lightweight implementation at the hosts.
	
	Disadvantages:
		- Need specification, probable changes to RFC 3971.

2) To use the default fetching mechanism at the CRL Distribution Points extension for each CA. Today the only mandatory fetching mechanism is RSYNC.
	Advantages:
		- no changes in the current specifications.

	Disadvantages:
		- need to implement RSYNC client in hosts.
		- no cache, the same CRL will be fetch by every host from the source. 

3) To modify the Certification Path Advertisement Message in the sense that every time a certificate is sent to the host, it will also include the CRL shown in its  CRL Distribution Points extension. So, you asked for a CERT, I send you both the CERT and the CRL (for signed with the same key).

What does the WG think?

Roque.

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