Re: [clue] CLUE schema definition proposal

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Thu, 27 September 2012 20:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [clue] CLUE schema definition proposal
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Simon, Roberta,

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!!!

We really need this and until now it seemed we had nobody with the 
knowledge, cycles, and interest to do it.

EVERYBODY: Please review this carefully and comment on things that don't 
agree with your understanding.

I don't expect this to be "right" initially. One of the primary values 
it has is that it gives a formal syntax, rather than a vague one. So it 
is easier for someone to decide if it agrees with their understanding. 
So I expect review and discussion of this to result in a feedback loop 
with refinements to both this syntax and the framework.

I will do a review myself. I expect I will do it a bit at a time, 
sending comments/questions as I go. I know enough XML to read and 
understand this, but not enough to write such a schema correctly, with 
good style and according to current best practice.

	Thanks,
	Paul

On 9/27/12 10:37 AM, Simon Pietro Romano wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> together with Roberta Presta, I have lately tried to get in synch with
> the current state of the art in CLUE. In the next few days, we're going
> to provide you with some feedback about both the framework and the data
> model.
> In the meantime, we have started to work on a schema definition for
> CLUE, which has been included in a straw-man draft proposal that you can
> find on-line at the following URL:
>
> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-presta-clue-data-model-schema-00.txt
>
> We hope this can foster discussion and prove useful for completing the
> on-going work. As a first, very high level comment, we think that the
> framework document might be somehow restructured in order to just
> contain the
> overall description of the CLUE architecture and components, without
> delving into the details associated with the data structures. On the
> other hand, a new document might be proposed, which basically merges the
> already existing
> data model draft from Allyn and Andy
> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-romanow-clue-data-model-01) and the
> 'schema definition' draft we are working on. If this sounds reasonable
> to the WG, we might then also add some more information
> to the current call flows documents
> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-romanow-clue-call-flow-02 and
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kyzivat-clue-telemedical-callflow-01),
> basically showing the exact content of the CLUE messages (and
> transported data). For this last part, we might work on automatically
> generating CLUE-compliant data structures, starting from the schema
> definition, in much the same way as we did for both XCON and MEDIACTRL
> in the past.
>
> If you think this is worth discussing, we can talk about the details
> during next Monday's conference call.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Simon and Roberta
>
>
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