Re: [clue] CLUE agenda for IETF91

Hi,

>> Regarding the data channel, I think there are two technical open issues:
>>
>> 1)Are we going to use SHOULD for SCTP interleaving, or are we going to 
>> allow not to use it at all?
>>
>> There are currently ongoing discussions about this in both RTCWEB and 
>> TSVWG, so I guess we have to wait for the outcome.
>
> Since the discussion of data channels is on the agenda for Friday we will have the advantage > of knowing whatever has happened on this during the week.

Let's hope so. But, I was told that Michael Tuexen will not attend the Hawaii meeting, so... 

>> 2)Are we going to use “Richard’s draft”
>> (draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sdpneg)?
>>
>> As we have discussed, we are open to use it, if it progresses. I guess 
>> it relates more to the CLUE signaling draft, though.
>
> Agree that is a signaling issue. I think we understand that it is a possibility if it gets done in 
> time. But Mary and I agree that we shouldn't delay things to fit this in.

Earlier today I checked the MMUSIC, and the draft wasn't there. But, I heard that the chairs have received a request for agenda time, so let's see what happens.

>What might be work discussing is what to do if it is done in time. 
>Notably, would we require it to be signaled for CLUE, or would either way be valid?

I guess we will ANYWAY need the CLUE grouping attribute value, since we need to group the CLUE audio- and video m- lines. So, we CAN use it to indicate that the data channel is used for CLUE.

But, I still think it would be good to have a general way for negotiating the data channel usages. Especially if someone also wants to use the data channel for something else than CLUE, I think it is bad to have different mechanisms for negotiating the usage.

Having said that, NOT having such mechanism should of course not hold CLUE hostage. 

Regards,

Christer

> *From:*clue [mailto:clue-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Simon Pietro 
> Romano
> *Sent:* 30. lokakuuta 2014 9:35
> *To:* Paul Kyzivat; CLUE
> *Subject:* Re: [clue] CLUE agenda for IETF91
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I think that a total of 1 hour is enough for presenting both the 
> protocol and the data model drafts.
>
> Simon
>
> Il 29 ottobre 2014 19:51:04 CET, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu 
> <mailto:pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>> ha scritto:
>
> You can find a very preliminary agenda for our CLUE sessions at IETF91:
>
>       http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/91/agenda/agenda-91-clue
>
> I tried to prioritize those things that need the most work, and that 
> have had recent action.
>
> Note that for now I gave no time to the call flows, because there have 
> been no changes since the last meeting.
>
> For the RTP Mapping, who will be leading the discussion? Roni or Jonathan?
>
> I request that all authors/presenters please review this and consider 
> how much time you can effectively use. We don't have enough 
> discretionary time for followup, so if you don't need as much time as 
> I allotted please let me know.
>
> And note that the agenda needs to be finalized by Monday, so I need 
> your feedback before then.
>
>          Thanks,
>          Paul
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Re: [clue] CLUE agenda for IETF91 - CLUE data channel