Re: [clue] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-clue-data-model-schema-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

"Ben Campbell" <ben@nostrum.com> Wed, 01 June 2016 17:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [clue] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-clue-data-model-schema-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On 1 Jun 2016, at 13:18, Alissa Cooper wrote:

>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Roni Even <ron.even.tlv@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Inline
>> Roni
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ben Campbell [mailto:ben@nostrum.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 5:23 PM
>>> To: The IESG
>>> Cc: draft-ietf-clue-data-model-schema@ietf.org; 
>>> clue-chairs@ietf.org;
>>> ron.even.tlv@gmail.com; clue@ietf.org
>>> Subject: Ben Campbell's Discuss on 
>>> draft-ietf-clue-data-model-schema-15:
>>> (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
>>>
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>>> DISCUSS:
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>>>
>>> - 11.2: I would like to discuss whether it's a good idea to allow 
>>> arbitrary
>>> values for mediaType, beyond those types registered in IANA.
>>> The text seem to encourage proprietary values. Did the working group
>>> consider requiring IANA registration of some sort for new values?
>>
>>
>> [Roni Even] ] I think that the meaning was to allow the media types 
>> from the IANA registry 
>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml . The 
>> issue will be about the usage of other media types in the CLUE 
>> environment and not about the values themselves.
>> Alissa also suggested that we clarify it
>
> I asked this same question in my AD review and Simon updated the text. 
> I think the text as it is now is clear, but the question is whether 
> the approach is the best one. I think overall this spec favors 
> customization over interop more than I personally would have liked, 
> but the WG did have consensus around this particular trade-off and 
> other similar ones, so I respect that.

I reviewed 14. Checking 15... Yes, that is more clear. I can accept that 
as working group consensus (and will clear). But as a "COMMENT", I think 
it might be helpful to add a sentence or two about why working group 
chose to balance things that way. Do people expect custom media types to 
be rare?  Is there any concern about media-type name collisions?

Ben.