[clue] draft-ietf-clue-datachannel-05 and DCEP
Christian Groves <Christian.Groves@nteczone.com> Wed, 07 January 2015 02:28 UTC
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Subject: [clue] draft-ietf-clue-datachannel-05 and DCEP
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Hello Christer, all, I'm just wondering what the status of DCEP in draft-ietf-clue-datachannel is? The discussion below seemed to conclude that DCEP wasn't needed? Regards, Christian On 26/11/2014 11:20 AM, Christian Groves wrote: > I'm OK with dropping DCEP. It could be worth keeping the DCEP code > point as you say for non-O/A environment. > > Regards, Christian > > On 26/11/2014 6:17 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I agree with Paul. >> >> But, the question is still whether the CLUE data channel spec ahould >> still define the DCEP code point for the CLUE data channel, IF >> someone e.g. want to specify usage of CLUE in a non-O/A environment. >> >> Regards, >> >> Christer >> >> Sent from my Windows Phone >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> From: Paul Kyzivat <mailto:pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> >> Sent: 25/11/2014 20:43 >> To: clue@ietf.org <mailto:clue@ietf.org> >> Subject: Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sdpneg and DCEP >> >> On 11/25/14 7:00 AM, Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju) wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >>>> If you provide the SCTP port in the WebRTC API, then DCEP won't >> be used. >> >>> You meant "(stream) id" instead of "SCTP port"? >> >> >> >> Yes. >> >> >> >>> In WebRTC API createDataChannel(), use of DCEP is controlled by >> using >> >> "negotiated" parameter. (Stream) id specification only determines >> the stream >> >> id to be used. >> >> >> >> Ok. But, the point is that you can create a data channel without >> DCEP. >> > [Raju] >> > IMHO, I am in favor of not mandating DCEP for non-WebRTC device >> CLUE usage. Furthermore, to be consistent it may be better not to use >> DCEP even when CLUE is used by a WebRTC device. >> >> If we mandate using draft-ejzak for establishing the clue channel, then >> DCEP won't be *used*. I think we simply make a requirement for support >> of draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-channel, and don't mention >> draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-protocol. If there are dependencies between those >> two, then that is not our problem. (I thought data-channel had a >> dependency on data-protocol, but I don't see it now, which is a good >> thing.) >> >> Thanks, >> Paul >> >> > BR >> > Raju >> > >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Christer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: clue [mailto:clue-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christer >> >>> Holmberg >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:24 AM >> >>> To: Christian Groves; clue@ietf.org >> >>> Subject: Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sdpneg and >> >>> DCEP >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> If I understood Paul's comment, DCEP is not required for >> compatibility >> >>> with WebRTC endpoints. If you provide the SCTP port in the WebRTC >> API, >> >>> then DCEP won't be used. >> >>> >> >>> The question is really whether we want to mandate non-WebRTC CLUE >> >>> devices to implement DCEP or not. >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Christer >> > _______________________________________________ >> > clue mailing list >> > clue@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/clue >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> clue mailing list >> clue@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/clue >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> clue mailing list >> clue@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/clue > > _______________________________________________ > clue mailing list > clue@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/clue
- [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sdpneg… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sd… Christian Groves
- Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sd… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sd… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sd… Christian Groves
- Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sd… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sd… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sd… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sd… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sd… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sd… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sd… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sd… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [clue] FW: draft-ejzak-mmusic-data-channel-sd… Christian Groves
- [clue] draft-ietf-clue-datachannel-05 and DCEP Christian Groves