Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates
John Ridges <jridges@masque.com> Fri, 18 November 2011 23:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates
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Mr. Maxwell, I apologize for spreading any FUD. Your statement is what I had expected (and hoped for). I was thrown a bit by Mr. Wenger's concerns. For my part, I consider this matter closed. John Ridges On 11/18/2011 4:06 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > John Ridges [jridges@masque.com]: >> Well, I'm not a lawyer, but it doesn't seem right that a standard should >> invite you to use the reference implementation in a way that would >> violate its own IPR declarations. It makes me wonder if there are ways >> of inadvertently misusing the codec's API that would do so as well. > Obviously. > > This is the purpose of language like: [warning generic language from an IPR > statement is contained in the paragraph below] > > "Specification means, [...] > (b) any reference implementation (each, a “Reference Implementation”) > published by the IETF Codec Working Group in the request for comments > [...] . Licensed patents [...] in the case of (b) above, use of the > reference implementation to the extent it infringes such patent" > > My expectation is that the red light / green-light stuff is moot if you are > using an IETF published reference implementation as is. This is the > reasonable and expected thing, and to the best of my knowledge it was > the intention of the parties that contributed to the process. > > Other things are permitted as well, subject to the conformance > requirements, but if you want to be extra paranoid, and want to take > the easy way out, using the reference itself will cover you. > > If you've found some reason to believe otherwise, please contact me > and I'll either point you to whatever you're missing or fuss at people > to get it fixed. (This is a generic invitation, open to any and all comers, > if there is too much interest I'll write a FAQ outside of the working > group or something…) > > >
- Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates Benjamin M. Schwartz
- [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates John Ridges
- Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates Gregory Maxwell
- Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates Gregory Maxwell
- Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates John Ridges
- Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates Stephan Wenger
- Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates John Ridges
- Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates Stephan Wenger
- Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates John Ridges
- Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates Gregory Maxwell
- Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates Ron
- Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates Gregory Maxwell
- Re: [codec] Conformance with unusual sample rates John Ridges