Re: [codec] #18: Frame Sizes

Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Wed, 12 May 2010 22:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [codec] #18: Frame Sizes
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On Wed, 12 May 2010, Michael Knappe wrote:

> Why would you need frame sizes approaching 250 ms? This would no longer 
> be supporting two-way communications in a human interactive sense.

Because it might work better over your GSM data network which in itself 
has 1s delay.

And you're wrong, I communicate over skype all the time with 2+ second 
RTT. It's free, the 500ms RTT version costs quite a lot of money. Doing 
bidirectional talk over long RTT is a matter of practice.

I'd rather have 2s RTT for free than paying 1USD / minute.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se