Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN
Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> Wed, 09 October 2019 11:09 UTC
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I also did both and still do. But if professors are not interested students will not either. So we have to work all angles. Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory mariejose@mjmontpetit.com mariejo@mit.edu On October 9, 2019 at 7:02:00 AM, Rute Sofia (sofia@fortiss.org) wrote: Well, it is for students. I am in both worlds (academia and research towards industry) so… J Rute *From:* Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> *Sent:* 09 October 2019 12:42 *To:* Rute Sofia <sofia@fortiss.org>; Noa Zilberman < noa.zilberman@cl.cam.ac.uk> *Cc:* coinrg-chairs@irtf.org; coin@irtf.org *Subject:* RE: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN But that is the point: IRTF is NOT standardisation. But OK for tutorials it seems its needed :) mjm Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory mariejose@mjmontpetit.com mariejo@mit.edu On October 9, 2019 at 4:38:21 AM, Rute Sofia (sofia@fortiss.org) wrote: Hello, I would also suggest considering organizing tutorials and workshops co-located with relevant scientific events. IMO most students are not directed to standardisation. Therefore, most of them usually do not work towards the IETF/IRTF. So to attract academia, one of the best intruments are scientific events. BR Rute Sofia *From:* Coin <coin-bounces@irtf.org> *On Behalf Of *Noa Zilberman *Sent:* 08 October 2019 20:01 *To:* Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> *Cc:* coinrg-chairs@irtf.org; coin@irtf.org *Subject:* Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Hi, I would suggest that we need to find ways to incentivize academics to engage with COIN. Some ideas that I can think of are: 1. Clearly list challenges on the wiki. These may be accompanied by drafts, but not necessarily, and can be something that was discussed on the mailing list, a presentation from a meeting etc. Ideally those will be accompanied by one or two lines to describe the challenge (+pointers). This helps not only to identify gaps, but also if there's a graduate student looking for a project in in-network computing, there may be a "go to page" hosted by COINRG with potential research challenges, and potential collaborators. 2. Invite postdocs and students to talk at the meetings. They are usually the first authors of papers so they know the tech side well, are more likely to have the time to travel, and are eager to discuss their research. 3. Make data available (this was briefly mentioned in the meeting). These may be use cases, datasets, traces etc. Research is better if it is driven by real world data (and more likely to get published). 4. List collaboration opportunities, internships etc that fall within COINRG domain. Kind Regards, Noa On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 4:55 PM Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com> wrote: Today at the Interim Noa Zilberman raised the issue on how to help academics contribute to COIN (thanks Noa!). Obviously drafts are not the right vehicle for most academics and Colin Perkins added that we could have other mechanisms. Some inputs: - academic presentations at the meeting with appropriate papers stored in the Github and datatracker (we already have done some of this) - if a topic could lead to a RFC support academic collaborators in writing a draft - keeping a list of related conferences and try to have mini-PRG meetings there But I am sure there is much more. So what are the list’s ideas? The minutes of the meeting will be issued and I have a recording I will upload to the GitHub. Thanks all! mjm Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory mariejose@mjmontpetit.com mariejo@mit.edu -- Coin mailing list Coin@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/coin
- [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Noa Zilberman
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Rute Sofia
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Rute Sofia
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Frank Fitzek
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Frank Fitzek
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Rute Sofia
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Rute Sofia
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Frank Fitzek
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Aaron Ding
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Rute Sofia
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Ciavaglia, Laurent (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Marie-Jose Montpetit
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Diego R. Lopez
- Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN Colin Perkins