Re: [core] Questions on draft-ietf-core-resource-directory-12
peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl> Mon, 16 April 2018 07:46 UTC
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From: peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl>
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Subject: Re: [core] Questions on draft-ietf-core-resource-directory-12
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> >> > POST /rd?ep=node1 >> > - payload contains the set of resources the register. >> > - returns a location of /rd/yyyy >> > >> > POST /rd/yyyy?ep=node1 >> > - payload is empty. >> > >> > In the first post, the rd will infer a context based on how the >> > registration is done. The second post just says that the TTL value >> > is to be refreshed back to the life-time value. However, the >> > inferred context could also be changed. >> >> Thanks for the example; it would take me long to figure this out >> otherwise. >> >> Reading the update specification, the ep=node1 is illegal in the >> update. >> Specifying ep means creating a new registration. > > ep=node1 would be ...well not technically illegal (the template would > put the ep in extra-attrs, and the server hopefully not store it > there); > it is an attribute that is not changing and therefore SHOULD NOT be > included in the update by the client. I do not follow. Registration template: EP->RD POST URI template {+rd}{?ep,d,lt,con,extra-attrs*} Update template EP->RD POST URI template {+rd}{?lt,con,extra-attrs*} What distinguishes Update from registration? => the presence of ?ep,d saying that extra-attrs* can include ep makes life really difficult IMO. sending a POST to /rd/123 can create a new registration at /rd/123/567, according to me, we did not distinguish resources as registration resource or general rd resource. Am I missing something? > > A changed ep would not create a new registration (we're at a > registration resource already), but simply be refused. > >> sending the update >> POST /rd/yyy will update the lt value. >> It is allowed to change the value of con in the update POST >> specification. >> The question is: >> When an updating ep, different from the registering one, sends the >> update of >> lt, does the context change to the hosts relation value of the >> updating ep. >> >> My gut reaction is no. it does not change the context value in the RD >> because that needs an explicit ?con= in the update specification. >> >> A warning in the RD text to this effect looks reasonable. > > The text is already pretty explicit: > > "If the parameter is set in an update, it is stored by the RD as > the > new Base URI under which to interpret the links of the > registration, > following the same restrictions as in the registration. If the > parameter is not set and was set explicitly before, the previous > context value is kept unmodified. If the parameter is not set and > was not set explicitly before either, the source address and source > port of the update request are stored as the context." Do we understand that the hosts relation does not set the parameter? > > This allows for clients that do not keep a good eye on their addresses > but have their OS pick the latest one. > > Note that nobody other than the endpoint (or CT if created by one) may > manipulate a registration resource. but difficult to check or enforce. the registration has no memory of the registering ep. > > (If we wanted to allow other hosts to manipulate a different endpoint's > registration, we'd need something like a ?ct=keep or change in > semantics > to allow that -- but I'd like to have a good reason to do that in the > first place). > >
- [core] Questions on draft-ietf-core-resource-dire… Jim Schaad
- Re: [core] Questions on draft-ietf-core-resource-… peter van der Stok
- Re: [core] Questions on draft-ietf-core-resource-… Jim Schaad
- Re: [core] Questions on draft-ietf-core-resource-… peter van der Stok
- Re: [core] Questions on draft-ietf-core-resource-… Christian Amsüss
- Re: [core] Questions on draft-ietf-core-resource-… Jim Schaad
- Re: [core] Questions on draft-ietf-core-resource-… peter van der Stok
- Re: [core] Questions on draft-ietf-core-resource-… Christian Amsüss
- Re: [core] Questions on draft-ietf-core-resource-… Christian Amsüss