Re: [core] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-core-new-block-13: (with COMMENT)

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Subject: Re: [core] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-core-new-block-13: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Ben

See inline.

Regards

Jon

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> Subject: Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-core-new-block-13:
> (with COMMENT)
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> Benjamin Kaduk has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-core-new-block-13: No Objection
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> COMMENT:
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> 
> Thank you for addressing my discuss and comment points!
> 
> In reviewing the latest updates, I briefly tried to cross-reference
> the formula in section 7.2:
> 
>       NON_PROBING_WAIT = NON_TIMEOUT * ((2 ** NON_MAX_RETRANSMIT)
> - 1) *
>       ACK_RANDOM_FACTOR + (2 * MAX_LATENCY) + NON_TIMEOUT
> 
> My initial attempt found that the corresponding formulae in RFC 7252 used
> PROCESSING_DELAY instead of NON_TIMEOUT for the last term, but I did not
> go back to double-check.  It's possible I'm just misreading something.

[Jon] RFC7253 4.8.2

   o  PROCESSING_DELAY is the time a node takes to turn around a
      Confirmable message into an acknowledgement.  We assume the node
      will attempt to send an ACK before having the sender time out, so
      as a conservative assumption we set it equal to ACK_TIMEOUT.

And hence NON_TIMEOUT.
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