Re: [core] 🔔 Working Group Adoption call for draft-groves-core-dynlink

Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> Thu, 29 September 2016 07:10 UTC

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To: Jaime Jiménez <jaime.jimenez@ericsson.com>, "core@ietf.org WG" <core@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [core] 🔔 Working Group Adoption call for draft-groves-core-dynlink
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One other note about the usefulness of the functionality of this document.

draft-groves-core-dynlink defines attributes for use with observe, namely
- Minimum Period
- Maximum Period
- Change Step
- Greater Than
- Less Than

These are obviously important for making CoAP observe usable in IoT
scenarios since otherwise you will unnecessarily generate a lot of traffic.

Since I find this functionality essential for CoAP observe I prefer to
have these attributes documented in an RFC.

Ciao
Hannes

On 09/29/2016 09:04 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> Hi Jaime,
> 
> I missed this call for adoption. I am in favor of having the document
> adopted for 2 reasons:
> 
> 1) First, the content of this draft was contained in the
> draft-ietf-core-interfaces-05. For this reason I am actually wondering
> why we do a call for adoption in the first place since we are only doing
> a document management action here (separating the content into two
> documents).
> 
> 2) Second, as Christian already mentioned the functionality is part of
> the LWM2M version 1.0 specification and we would prefer to have a
> corresponding IETF document.
> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
> 
> 
> On 08/15/2016 05:05 PM, Jaime Jiménez wrote:
>> Dear CoRE-WG,
>>
>> As we discussed at last IETF96, working group adoption has been
>> requested for draft-groves-core-dynlink. This draft is the result of a
>> document split and thus the initial status is that of adoption,
>> nevertheless that has to be confirmed on the list. Please reply with
>> your comments, including although not limited to whether or not you
>> support adoption. Non-authors are especially encouraged to comment.
>>
>> Since there are several concurrent WGA calls, we will end the call
>> on *August 26, 2016*.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jaime and Carsten
>>
>>
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