Re: [Covidimpacts-workshop] [IAB] I-D Action: draft-iab-covid19-workshop-02.txt

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Hiya,

On 05/05/2021 11:26, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> We have published a new version which mainly contains edits and
> addition from Kirsty on the security discussion (Thanks!).
> 
> As we have no outstanding issue or comments, this version should be
> ready for publication!
> 
> Again thanks to everybody who contributed to the report but also to
> the discussion at the workshop!

I just had a look at the diff, and it's all fine for me
except for one change that I think needs a tweak:

The conclusions section now says:

" Improve observability to better understand the health of
the Internet..."

I think that could be misinterpreted to mean that one
conclusion of the w/s was that we should support ways to
break crypto, which wasn't even suggested IIRC.

I reckon the earlier text was better as it just said we
wanted a "Better understanding of the health of the
Internet..."

So, I'd argue to revert that one change. (I'm not arguing
that better observability isn't needed, but only that it's
a subtle issue and liable to be misinterpreted with the
current wording - there is significant controversy after
all about how one might "improve" things, and about what
might be "better" in this space.)

I'd be fine if that were fixed at auth-48 or whenever.

Cheers,
S.



> 
> Mirja
> 
> 
> P.S.: We plan to close the workshop list after publication of the
> report. However, follow-up discussions can of course also happen on
> architecture-discuss@iab.org !
> 
> 
>> On 5. May 2021, at 12:22, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories. This draft is a work item of the Internet Architecture
>> Board IETF of the IETF.
>> 
>> Title           : Report from the IAB COVID-19 Network Impacts
>> Workshop 2020 Authors         : Jari Arkko Stephen Farrell Mirja
>> Kühlewind Colin Perkins Filename        :
>> draft-iab-covid19-workshop-02.txt Pages           : 24 Date
>> : 2021-05-05
>> 
>> Abstract: The COVID-19 pandemic caused changes in Internet user
>> behavior, particularly during the introduction of the initial
>> quarantine and work-from-home arrangements.  These behavior changes
>> drove changes in Internet traffic.
>> 
>> The Internet Architecture Board (IAB) held a workshop to discuss 
>> network impacts of the pandemic on November 9-13, 2020.  The
>> workshop was held to convene interested researchers, network
>> operators, network management experts, and Internet technologists
>> to share their experiences.  The meeting was held online given the
>> on-going travel and contact restrictions at that time.
>> 
>> 
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-covid19-workshop/
>> 
>> There is also an HTML version available at: 
>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-iab-covid19-workshop-02.html
>> 
>> A diff from the previous version is available at: 
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-iab-covid19-workshop-02
>> 
>> 
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>