Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "bar BoF"
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Subject: Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "bar BoF"
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 09:36:30 -0500, Andreww Sullivan said: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 02:21:49PM +0000, Edward Lewis wrote: >> >> I guess what I’m saying is that I’m not so clear on why we are labeling >> domains as public or private. > > Your concern is precisely why, in my previous stabs at this, I have > attempted to avoid that. It's the wrong classification, IMO, even if > it's a useful rule of thumb sometimes; and too much confusion has > resulted from trying to use it. +1 > Instead, we should be looking for a way of grouping identifiers > according to other classifications. The motivating stuff in the > earlier I-Ds I wrote or worked on with Jeff is there to explain why > the DNS hierarchy is _not_ the right classification, despite the > attempts in the past to use it. agreed. e.g. please see.. Asserting DNS Administrative Boundaries Within DNS Zones http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sullivan-domain-policy-authority-01 ..section 1 "Introduction and Motivation". > Unfortunately, to my way of thinking, people who have running code > that is already based on the faulty reading of the hierarchy are > unlikely to change that enough to work with new arbitrary groupings. > Moreover, there's the additional problem that allowing arbitrary links > out of hierarchy will potentially explode the data that clients have > to pay attention to, and nobody is enthusiastic about that. ..which are considerations to keep in mind as we explore use cases, requirements, and potential solutions... HTH, =JeffH
- [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "bar Bo… Casey Deccio
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Casey Deccio
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Gervase Markham
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Edward Lewis
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Casey Deccio
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Casey Deccio
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… John Levine
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Gervase Markham
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Edward Lewis
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Casey Deccio
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Edward Lewis
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Casey Deccio
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Casey Deccio
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… John Levine
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Edward Lewis
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Casey Deccio
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Casey Deccio
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Casey Deccio
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… John R Levine
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Edward Lewis
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… John Levine
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… John R Levine
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Edward Lewis
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Jothan Frakes
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Rubens Kuhl
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Edward Lewis
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… John Levine
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… =JeffH
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Edward Lewis
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Kurt Andersen
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Gervase Markham
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Kurt Andersen
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Casey Deccio
- Re: [Dbound] Draft problem statement and IETF "ba… Casey Deccio