Re: [Dcrouting] DC Routing requirements draft

[Nalini J Elkins <[e-mail]>]

   >>> Please note that EDCO group
   >>> (draft-elkins-routing-brickmortar-topology) input was not included and
   >>> will have a separate track.
    
    >>i can not find that draft.  i did find draft-elkins-brickmortar-architecture-00.txt which, as we previously
    >> discussed, does not seem relevant to a data center discussion.

    >[jeff] the intention here is that it will be relevant, unfortunately, the authors have missed cutoff date to upload new version (still being worked on), 
    >the draft will provide description of what it is today and set of requirements as seen by the enterprise DC’s. 

     >Nalini – please feel free to add your comments.


Guys, I am working on description of what our requirements are and what our data centers look like.   I will post the draft to the list as I have, unfortunately, missed the cut off for
draft submission.

The draft in its current state does not have enough about routing.  But, just in case some people are thinking that enterprises do not have data centers, I thought I might post some definitions of "data center".  I hope I have misunderstood the comment.

>From TechTarget:  http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/definition/data-center

"A data center (or datacenter) is a facility composed of networked computers and storage that businesses or other organizations use to organize, process, store and disseminate large amounts of data. A business typically relies heavily upon the applications, services and data contained within a data center, making it a focal point and critical asset for everyday operations."
>From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center
"A data center is a facility used to house computer systems and associated components, such as telecommunications and storage systems. It generally includes redundant[clarification needed] or backup power supplies, redundant data communications connections, environmental controls (e.g. air conditioning, fire suppression) and various security devices. A large data center is an industrial-scale operation using as much electricity as a small town.[1][2]"
>From Gartner: https://www.gartner.com/it-glossary/data-center/
"The data center is the department in an enterprise that houses and maintains back-end information technology (IT) systems and data stores—its mainframes, servers and databases. In the days of large, centralized IT operations, this department and all the systems resided in one physical place, hence the name data center."
 
Thanks,

Nalini Elkins
CEO and Founder
Inside Products, Inc.
www.insidethestack.com
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 From: Jeff Tantsura <[e-mail]>
To: Randy Bush <[e-mail]> 
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Subject: Re: [Dcrouting] DC Routing requirements draft
 


Randy,

please see inline

Cheers,
Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Bush <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 12:43
To: Jeff Tantsura <[e-mail]>
Cc: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [Dcrouting] DC Routing requirements draft

    > The authors have published DC Routing requirements draft
    > (draft-dt-rtgwg-dcrouting-requirements)
    
    usually requirements are motivated/justified; that seems to be missing.
[jeff] to come, we have just started
    
    some would note the lack of is-is and mpls, both known to be used in
    data centers.  hence this is describing needs of a future protocol.  but
    it reads like a laundry list meant to match a protocol product set which
    is yet to be revealed.
[jeff] the intention of the draft is not to call names but to identify set of requirements every proposal (new, or enhancements to an existing protocol) could be compared against in a tangible way, running beauty contest between protocols is not very productive…
    
    > Please note that EDCO group
    > (draft-elkins-routing-brickmortar-topology) input was not included and
    > will have a separate track.
    
    i can not find that draft.  i did find
    draft-elkins-brickmortar-architecture-00.txt which, as we previously
    discussed, does not seem relevant to a data center discussion.
[jeff] the intention here is that it will be relevant, unfortunately, the authors have missed cutoff date to upload new version (still being worked on), the draft will provide description of what it is today and set of requirements as seen by the enterprise DC’s. 
Nalini – please feel free to add your comments.

    
    randy