Re: [Dcrup] Ben Campbell's Yes on draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage-04: (with COMMENT)

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Tue, 24 October 2017 19:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Dcrup] Ben Campbell's Yes on draft-ietf-dcrup-dkim-usage-04: (with COMMENT)
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On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Kurt Andersen <kurta@drkurt.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 12:35 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> I see Ben's point, and "MUST be able to..." sounds reasonable to me.  I
>> think this also addresses Jari's GEN-ART point (to which Mirja alluded),
>> and his "MUST implement" suggestion also seems reasonable to me.
>>
>> What does the WG prefer?
>>
>
> "MUST be able to" seems to capture the intent.
>

I concur (as an individual).

And as chair, I'd say this small issue probably has consensus, so Scott,
please make this tweak and resubmit (modulo the other post-IESG thread) and
then Alexey can send it on its way.

-MSK