Re: [Detnet] are there any drafts published yet?

"Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> Wed, 24 September 2014 09:10 UTC

From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
To: "Norman Finn (nfinn)" <nfinn@cisco.com>, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>, "detnet@ietf.org" <detnet@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Detnet] are there any drafts published yet?
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Hello Alia and Norm:

The effort here is a bit un-classical but the background material effectively exists:

- the work has started at the IEEE so we do not have I-Drafts covering that yet. There are actual standards that cover a consistent layer-2 fabric. Between others, we may point at documents from 802.1BA, IEEE1733 which relates to RTP timing, and 802.1Qav. The IEEE is now working on the 2nd generation and we want that work to span capabilities at Layer-3, and I’m sure that the value of that work will not escape the IESG.

- There are actually shipping products for AVB/AVnu and pre-6TiSCH (ISA100.11a/IEC62734).

- the IETF effort has started in a distributed fashion at ROLL, TSVWG and 6TiSCH. This work should be orchestrated through detnet to ensure consistency.

Related IETF documents include:
* draft-svshah-tsvwg-deterministic-forwarding
* draft-ietf-6tisch-architecture
* draft-phinney-roll-rpl-industrial-applicability
* RFC5673

We can put together an early draft on the problem statement quite rapidly, but with Norm in vacations, probably not before BoF cut-off.

What do you think?

Cheers,

Pascal

From: detnet [mailto:detnet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Norman Finn (nfinn)
Sent: mercredi 24 septembre 2014 00:44
To: Alia Atlas; detnet@ietf.org
Cc: Spencer Dawkins
Subject: Re: [Detnet] are there any drafts published yet?

Understood, Alia.  It’s not clear we can make the deadline.  It was hard to get things started in earnest before the IEEE 802.1 meeting held Sep 8-11.  We’ll see how much we can get down, by then.

— Norm

From: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com<mailto:akatlas@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 at 07:19 AM
To: "detnet@ietf.org<mailto:detnet@ietf.org>" <detnet@ietf.org<mailto:detnet@ietf.org>>
Cc: Spencer Dawkins <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>>
Subject: [Detnet] are there any drafts published yet?

If you want a BoF in Honolulu then you need to get a lot of things done before Friday! A BoF proposal without any drafts will not be taken seriously. The IESG cannot discuss this without background material.

Charter discussion is a bit premature.

Regards,
Alia

[Detnet] are there any drafts published yet? Alia Atlas
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