Re: [Detnet] AD review of draft-ietf-detnet-bounded-latency-07

John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> Tue, 25 January 2022 22:13 UTC

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From: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
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Thanks, Ehsan. I’ve reviewed your diff and response comments, looks good. I’ve sent the request to start an IETF Last Call.

Regards,

—John

On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:20 AM, Mohammadpour Ehsan <ehsan.mohammadpour@epfl.ch<mailto:ehsan.mohammadpour@epfl.ch>> wrote:



Dear John,

Thanks again for your review of the Bounded Latency draft. We have gone through your comments and modified the draft accordingly. The new version is now online: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-detnet-bounded-latency-08.html<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-detnet-bounded-latency-08.html__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!XnFmp-_Qe_PlvBSvFeEQ5kqDC0sv-CftpQgkyP_TQUqfyW6Psdia6MltMcbEug$>. In the attachment, you can find the diff file of the last version and the new version as well as the response file to your comments (embedded as pdf comments).


Best,
Ehsan



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On 6 Jan 2022, at 23:23, John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net<mailto:jgs@juniper.net>> wrote:

Hi All,

I missed this one in my earlier comments:

Although the Acknowledgments section isn’t required, it’s customary, and I was a little surprised not to see one. It’s completely up to you whether to include one or not, but I thought I would check in to make sure this was a deliberate choice on your part. (I noticed this when I was checking up to see how the RTGDIR review by Tony P had been addressed.)

Regards,

—John

On Jan 3, 2022, at 5:33 PM, John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net<mailto:jgs@juniper.net>> wrote:

Dear Authors,

Here’s my review of your document. I don't think it will be too difficult to address my comments.

I’ve supplied my comments in the form of an edited copy of the draft. You can use your favorite diff tool to review them; I’ve attached a PDF of the rfcdiff output for your convenience if you’d like to use it. I’ve also pasted a traditional diff below in case you want to use it for in-line reply. I’d appreciate feedback regarding whether you found this a useful way to receive my comments as compared to a more traditional numbered list of comments with selective quotation from the draft.

Thanks,

—John

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