Re: [Detnet] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-detnet-ip-06: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 26 June 2020 19:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Detnet] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-detnet-ip-06: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Lou:

There’s also a “SHALL” in §5.2.

The rest looks good to me.

I trust you with the changes, so I’m clearing my DISCUSS.

Thanks!

Alvaro.

On June 25, 2020 at 5:24:22 PM, Lou Berger (lberger@labn.net) wrote:

Alvaro

to be precise, you are looking for:

section 4.3.1: s/MUST/must

section 4.3.2: s/IP MUST/IP must

section 5.3: s/MUST/must

Right?

I think that's fine as it translates to conformance being judged based
on (a) this document, (b) a yang or control plane document, and (c)
whichever traffic treatment RFCs/references the yang or control plane
document reference.  This is reasonable (at least to me).

I think you have two additional points below...

> On June 25, 2020 at 3:57:22 PM, Lou Berger (lberger@labn.net
> <mailto:lberger@labn.net>) wrote:
>
...
>> >>> BTW, 0 is the IPv6 HbH option -- do you really want to exclude it?
>> >> I think so, but this was not extensively discussed. Do you think it's
>> >> the wrong call?
>> > I don't know.  But if all the other EHs are not excluded there must be
>> > a good reason.  I can imagine ways to use HbH to maybe carry other
>> > flow identification parameter...for later use.  Just thinking out
>> > loud...
>> >

okay, I'll make the change to allow for zero values (assuming no
objections for others.)

>> >
>> >
>> > ...
>> >>> (8) I believe that these references should be Normative:
>> >>> I-D.ietf-detnet-data-plane-framework and RFC8655.
>> >> the data plane framework is informative so generally references to
>> >> informative docs are informative.
>> > Nope.
>> >
>> > A normative reference is one that "must be read to understand or
>> > implement the technology"...regardless of the status.
>> >
>> >
>>
https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/
>>
>> >

okay then.

All,

please look at the repo to see if you object/approve of the changes:

https://github.com/detnet-wg/data-plane-drafts/compare/working/lb/iesg-0625

https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/cgi-bin/xml2rfc.cgi?url=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/detnet-wg/data-plane-drafts/working/lb/iesg-0625/ip/draft-ietf-detnet-ip.xml

Thank you!

 Lou

>

>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Alvaro.
>> >

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Re: [Detnet] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-iet… Lou Berger
Re: [Detnet] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-iet… Alvaro Retana
Re: [Detnet] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-iet… Lou Berger
Re: [Detnet] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-iet… Lou Berger
Re: [Detnet] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-iet… Alvaro Retana
Re: [Detnet] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-iet… Lou Berger