Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / multiple ipv4 interfaces
Francis Dupont <Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr> Sun, 15 April 2012 10:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / multiple ipv4 interfaces
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In your previous mail you wrote: > On Apr 14, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Francis Dupont wrote: > I am confused: either the tunnels are links (it is a bad idea IMHO > but it is not a priori impossible), or they are not links and they > don't exist for DHCP. > > That is not the use case for this draft. The use case for this > draft is that a client wants IPv4 support on an IPv6-only network, > and so it uses DHCP to get an address for the tunnel endpoint. => IMHO some of the confusion comes from this term "tunnel endpoint": it is both the node at this end of the tunnel and the virtual interface of the tunnel. > It does this by broadcasting a DHCPv4 request on the local > interface, which the CRA captures and forwards to the DHCPv4 server > over IPv6. => this is the first interpretation and the local interface is the physical interface used by the tunnel endpoint node to send encapsulated packets to the tunnel other end. > Once the tunnel is established, renewals are (one assumes) routed > down the tunnel. => in fact to work well either the server has to handle both the TSV function and the regular DHCPv4 over a tunnel, or a TRA is at the tunnel other end. But this doesn't change the client/CRA so is a side comment. > But the idea, as I understand it at least, is to leverage the > existing DHCPv4 client, not to require a special DHCPv4 client. => yes, this is the idea. And I tried with two very different and unmodified clients so the idea is valid. Note it is not fully true for the server side (even the I-D says it is). > If we require a special DHCPv4 client, we might aswell just do all > the DHCPv4 transactions over UDPv6. => I agree: on the client side the DHCPv4 client is unmodified and the CRA is as simple as possible. IMHO these are critical for the target deployment, i.e., low cost CPEs. Thanks Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr
- [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / mult… Dmitry Anipko
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Francis Dupont
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Qi Sun
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Peng Wu
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Francis Dupont
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Peng Wu
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Francis Dupont
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Francis Dupont
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Peng Wu
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Francis Dupont
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Francis Dupont
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Peng Wu
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Francis Dupont
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Dmitry Anipko
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Dmitry Anipko
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Peng Wu
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Peng Wu
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Francis Dupont
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Francis Dupont
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Dmitry Anipko
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Dmitry Anipko
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Dmitry Anipko
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Ted Lemon
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Peng Wu
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Dmitry Anipko
- Re: [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / … Dmitry Anipko
- [dhcwg] draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-over-ipv6-02 / mult… Peng Wu